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Post by Todd Opitz on Feb 11, 2011 18:51:14 GMT -5
Denis style of armwrestling is easy to beat if your Jerry C. Denis is strong but he is very slow off the go, Jerry would push press his arm flat to the pad with no problem. Richard is to strong, and his hand is to strong , he will crush him, Travis is to fast for Denis, and Tim B , will crack his wrist like nothing, and your not beating John B, when he is healthy. USA is the Best.
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Post by enginterzi on Feb 11, 2011 19:07:26 GMT -5
btw Fabio, i can always defend my rankings but i am just tired of it.you say a supermatch is the best way for ranking and at same time you ignore the supermatch between John and Devon.was John forced to pull Devon? i guess not
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Post by johnbath on Feb 11, 2011 19:23:49 GMT -5
Engin, your a human being and prone to error. Having said that, no one is more knowledgable about AW and competitors like you. Your rankings rightly reflect who is best RIGHT NOW. If John is injured, then he is not the best right now. You can't be expected to rank on hypothetical match ups where everyone is healthy. That's not realistic. For the most part I think your rankings are dead on.
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Post by John Milne on Feb 11, 2011 19:28:11 GMT -5
Fabio you state that " John was injured and completely out of shape" when he competed against Devon. Let me remind you that 5 weeks later John beat Cyplenkov in a supermatch. Does that carry any weight with you as to John's condition? ? Or would you rather disrespect Devon's largest accomplishment by saying such things. Also, John stated while he was there that there would be no excuses from him. To my knowledge John has never made such excuses. Why do you?
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Post by enginterzi on Feb 11, 2011 19:31:08 GMT -5
Fabio you state that " John was injured and completely out of shape" when he competed against Devon. Let me remind you that 5 weeks later John beat Cyplenkov in a supermatch. Does that carry any weight with you as to John's condition? ? Or would you rather disrespect Devon's largest accomplishment by saying such things. John, 5 weeks later John did not beat Cyplenkov in a supermatch but beat him at Zloty overalls and it was the first year of Cyplenkov at Zloty.
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Post by John Milne on Feb 11, 2011 19:31:52 GMT -5
ok, my mistake Engin
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Post by johnbath on Feb 11, 2011 19:31:58 GMT -5
Yeah, but John even said in an interview on armtv weeks before he pulled Devon that he expected Devon to kill him. Why would he say that if didn't already know he wasn't in the best shape to pull Devon?
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Post by John Milne on Feb 11, 2011 19:33:20 GMT -5
To win Zloty overalls it must attest at least somewhat to John's condition.
I mean it could not have been as dramatically horrible as Fabio states it.
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Post by enginterzi on Feb 11, 2011 19:34:23 GMT -5
as far as i know even Devon knew that John was in a bad shape before John vs Devon supermatch happenned.i do not mean any disrespect but i agree that John was not in a good shape when he faced Devon.but it can not change the fact that they have pulled and Devon won.
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Post by enginterzi on Feb 11, 2011 19:36:15 GMT -5
ok can we at least say that John was not in his best shape ;D ?
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Post by John Milne on Feb 11, 2011 19:37:09 GMT -5
ok can we at least say that John was not in his best shape ;D ? I agree with that. I don't know why people say you like to argue. You're very sensible ;D
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Post by enginterzi on Feb 11, 2011 19:39:36 GMT -5
we are not talking about the best ever but the recent best.so Devon was better than John on that day and Devon was ready to face John in Istanbul if John did not have a shoulder injury.so how can we take anything away from Devon?
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Post by enginterzi on Feb 11, 2011 19:41:17 GMT -5
I don't know why people say you like to argue. You're very sensible ;D people says a lot,they like it if they hear what they want and they dislike if they dont hear what they like.so who cares,i am just being myself.
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Post by johnbath on Feb 11, 2011 19:41:55 GMT -5
ok can we at least say that John was not in his best shape ;D ? Why is this being made to be complicated? It's simple, if John isn't in his best shape and he loses, then he isn't the best right now. Hypotheticals are pointless.
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Post by enginterzi on Feb 11, 2011 19:43:35 GMT -5
ok John
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