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Post by dixonglory on Apr 22, 2011 12:11:21 GMT -5
teammaine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=21912&page=1Dmitry had 2 buys on a side....first round and 4th round a side buys....he wont win again if they didnt give out free buys 4th round in...how did some one get a 4th round buy?....who EVER did brackets Dmitry should say THANK U.... today i re read this post by Tom Nelson. i think there is an allegation about the way ,waf has conducted 100kg in 2010 usa worlds. or it is a gesture of disgust to a champion from Asia who came top of the world. i would like to hear your comments on this issue.
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Post by dixonglory on Apr 22, 2011 12:19:36 GMT -5
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Post by Carlos Garcia on Apr 22, 2011 12:27:22 GMT -5
I don't think he is accusing the waf of misconduct. He is questioning why there was a bye so deep in the brackets. We say "he should thank so and so" as another way of saying he got lucky with his draw.
One might say, "Tom should thank Denise for his win in billings because he got an easy draw." That's not accusing Denise of misconduct, just another way we in America talk trash.
That's how I took it atleast......
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Post by Carlos Garcia on Apr 22, 2011 12:38:32 GMT -5
You being a "Saudi national champ" should know the organization and person you beat that allowed said organization to award you your "title". Who did you beat and through what org? did you start this thread to deflect attention because someone called into question your claims to a national title? I think so |
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Post by dixonglory on Apr 22, 2011 12:48:45 GMT -5
You being a "Saudi national champ" should know the organization and person you beat that allowed said organization to award you your "title". Who did you beat and through what org? did you start this thread to deflect attention because someone called into question your claims to a national title? I think so imo prejudism may not help.. checkout who started the thread first or they were just cross posted? |
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Post by dixonglory on Apr 22, 2011 12:56:38 GMT -5
I don't think he is accusing the waf of misconduct. He is questioning why there was a bye so deep in the brackets. We say "he should thank so and so" as another way of saying he got lucky with his draw. One might say, "Tom should thank Denise for his win in billings because he got an easy draw." That's not accusing Denise of misconduct, just another way we in America talk trash. That's how I took it atleast...... thanks for the quick response Carlos... now let us hear what others including WAF president has to say on this allegation. |
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Post by Carlos Garcia on Apr 22, 2011 13:19:45 GMT -5
This thread was started by you in an attempt to smear an American National Champion IMO. He did not levy any allegations against anyone. You are losing the context in translation,
Tom is merely talking trash about this particular winner,
You original quote can be translated like this... "if it had been any other draw the guy would have lost."
There are a hundred ways to state the same thing in many languages. A type of "slang" if you will.
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Post by tomnelson on Apr 22, 2011 15:47:02 GMT -5
First of all....i dont like anyone placing ahead of me at worlds regardless of which country there from.....Dmitry won that day...he got 10th the year before as i did this year, as im plaining on wining next time i pull worlds....in 2010 i put about as little pressure on myself to win...i went in with open eyes as i was going to see how close i was to winning WAF and what i needed to do to become champion....as far as bye or buys lol...yes it was bs there was 4th round A SIDE byes....WHY were there?  ?....Dmitry and i pulled left and i won...he is WHY better rt...he is the WORLD CHAMPION...so for you DIXON you a lying fake person who lives in a world of fake things....take care keep on with the BS.... |
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Post by Leonard Harkless on Apr 22, 2011 16:09:20 GMT -5
The Unified uses a draw system where you draw your number which places you on the bracket so it is truly luck of the draw.
The Unified uses traditional brackets
WAF staff sets the order of the matches but they do not know who the pullers are, just what country.
As for why there is a bye in the 4th round.........the WAF does not use brackets. The WAF uses draw sheets not a bracket, so they do not give byes until they have to.
So lets say there is 40 in your weight class.
In a traditional bracket there would be 24 byes first round and by the second round it would be trimmed down to 32 pullers then 3rd round 16, fourth round 8, 5th round 4, 6th round 2 then the 7th round would be the finals .
In a WAF draw sheet it looks like this for a 40 sheet
1st round 40
2nd 20
3rd 10
4th 5 with a bye
5th 3 with a bye
6th 2
7th finals
Each gives you 39 matches on the A side but in a traditional bracket the A side byes are all in the first round and the WAF draw sheet........they can come in the end of rounds.
Dixon, on another note. Are you trying to cause controversy?
If not then why are you posting inflammatory posts like this?
If you are curious about how the system works then post questions but you are showing a pattern of causing controversy.
JMO
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Post by Bill Collins on Apr 22, 2011 17:09:23 GMT -5
The Unified uses a draw system where you draw your number which places you on the bracket so it is truly luck of the draw. The Unified uses traditional brackets WAF staff sets the order of the matches but they do not know who the pullers are, just what country. As for why there is a bye in the 4th round.........the WAF does not use brackets. The WAF uses draw sheets not a bracket, so they do not give byes until they have to. So lets say there is 40 in your weight class. In a traditional bracket there would be 24 byes first round and by the second round it would be trimmed down to 32 pullers then 3rd round 16, fourth round 8, 5th round 4, 6th round 2 then the 7th round would be the finals . In a WAF draw sheet it looks like this for a 40 sheet 1st round 40 2nd 20 3rd 10 4th 5 with a bye 5th 3 with a bye 6th 2 7th finals Each gives you 39 matches on the A side but in a traditional bracket the A side byes are all in the first round and the WAF draw sheet........they can come in the end of rounds. Dixon, on another note. Are you trying to cause controversy? If not then why are you posting inflammatory posts like this? If you are curious about how the system works then post questions but you are showing a pattern of causing controversy. JMO WAF went to using an electronic bracking system about 3-4 years ago, no more draw sheets...so getting a bye later in the game is crazy... |
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Post by tomnelson on Apr 22, 2011 17:10:15 GMT -5
THANK YOU BILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Andrew Fournier on Apr 22, 2011 19:15:59 GMT -5
Dixon is NOT a national champion. He refuses to state "anyone" whom he defeated on his quest for the title. He may be the only armwrestler active in Saudia Arabia. My 2 cents.
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Post by Leonard Harkless on Apr 22, 2011 20:38:36 GMT -5
The Unified uses a draw system where you draw your number which places you on the bracket so it is truly luck of the draw. The Unified uses traditional brackets WAF staff sets the order of the matches but they do not know who the pullers are, just what country. As for why there is a bye in the 4th round.........the WAF does not use brackets. The WAF uses draw sheets not a bracket, so they do not give byes until they have to. So lets say there is 40 in your weight class. In a traditional bracket there would be 24 byes first round and by the second round it would be trimmed down to 32 pullers then 3rd round 16, fourth round 8, 5th round 4, 6th round 2 then the 7th round would be the finals . In a WAF draw sheet it looks like this for a 40 sheet 1st round 40 2nd 20 3rd 10 4th 5 with a bye 5th 3 with a bye 6th 2 7th finals Each gives you 39 matches on the A side but in a traditional bracket the A side byes are all in the first round and the WAF draw sheet........they can come in the end of rounds. Dixon, on another note. Are you trying to cause controversy? If not then why are you posting inflammatory posts like this? If you are curious about how the system works then post questions but you are showing a pattern of causing controversy. JMO WAF went to using an electronic bracking system about 3-4 years ago, no more draw sheets...so getting a bye later in the game is crazy... They have not advertised this fact but WAF paid big bucks to get a custom computer system that mirrors their draw sheet design.........so no the only thing crazy is this system that WAF has.  |
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Post by dixonglory on Apr 23, 2011 0:01:52 GMT -5
i expect many more to join this discussion...
eg. if a person says there was unfair draw in a tournament organised by me ,i would be curious to know how it happened and what is the reality and how can that be avoided in future events .
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Post by "VENGEANCE" -David Rivera- on Apr 23, 2011 7:50:55 GMT -5
Just change the title to National Mustache Champion replace the stars with mini mustaches.  |
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?....Dmitry and i pulled left and i won...he is WHY better rt...he is the WORLD CHAMPION...so for you DIXON you a lying fake person who lives in a world of fake things....take care keep on with the BS....
