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Post by Jerry Cadorette on Oct 15, 2011 16:15:28 GMT -5
I apologize to who ever I let down, let me be the first to say that there was so much talent there. I felt like superman yesterday, and then my nerves just got the better of me. I didn't get to sleep, and I just didn't bring it today. I KNOW for a fact I should have won, but between traveling and then the time change, my hats off to the Europeans it was a great meet, with lots of great talent that is here and to Igor for throwing the great meet. It was top notch all around. The only thing I should of done different besides WIN, was we should have Got here a day earlier to handle the time change better. Only other thing that was tough is the fact that the pullers all lay down for Dennis and Andrey, so they get to go through fresh. Makes it a little tougher for us. OH and the last thing I promise, they call SO many fouls it is crazy... I want to see if I really did foul out of my match, cause that was the difference of being in the finals vs going through the b side.
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Post by Derek Smith on Oct 15, 2011 16:22:14 GMT -5
I apologize to who ever I let down, let me be the first to say that there was so much talent there. I felt like superman yesterday, and then my nerves just got the better of me. I didn't get to sleep, and I just didn't bring it today. I KNOW for a fact I should have won, but between traveling and then the time change, my hats off to the Europeans it was a great meet, with lots of great talent that is here and to Igor for throwing the great meet. It was top notch all around. The only thing I should of done different besides WIN, was we should have Got here a day earlier to handle the time change better. Only other thing that was tough is the fact that the pullers all lay down for Dennis and Andrey, so they get to go through fresh. Makes it a little tougher for us. OH and the last thing I promise, they call SO many fouls it is crazy... I want to see if I really did foul out of my match, cause that was the difference of being in the finals vs going through the b side. Thank you for having the balls and spending the money to go represent us. You are the man. ;D
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Post by Adis Turcinhodzic on Oct 15, 2011 16:45:00 GMT -5
Zoloev is a FREAK!!! Rustam needs to work on his endurance Normunds looks very strong I'm surprised that Denis beat Pushkar Can't wait to see nee World Rankings... good luck Engin Rustam needs to work on his endurance Josh please delete that
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Post by Scott Wright on Oct 15, 2011 16:49:05 GMT -5
I think it's funny that Pushkar is rt handed and won left. And Denis is Lt handed and won right. I may be wrong with Denis being left handed, if so very funny. Engin, do you if he is left handed?
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Post by Holly Edwards on Oct 15, 2011 17:00:45 GMT -5
Any final results yet?
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Post by Josh Handeland on Oct 15, 2011 17:13:35 GMT -5
Zoloev is a FREAK!!! Rustam needs to work on his endurance Normunds looks very strong I'm surprised that Denis beat Pushkar Can't wait to see nee World Rankings... good luck Engin Rustam needs to work on his endurance Josh please delete that Why? He is freak strong but it's true. Even John said he is super strong and explosive but he burns out quickly if he is stopped.
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Post by Aaron Cordova on Oct 15, 2011 17:14:57 GMT -5
Is this the longest thread in board history?
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Post by Rob Vigeant Jr. on Oct 15, 2011 17:35:24 GMT -5
It is kind of a stupid statement. Saying " he needs to work on his endurance" because he lost in a war for the first time in god knows how long is super ignorant. Talking about his endurance like you discovered his weak link.... He has no weak links.... He will continue to pull and dominate and his endurance won't be a factor as there is a small handful that can even make him work enough to make stamina a factor. How many waf titles ? How many eaf and zloty ? Those are big events where endurance is a big factor.... He seems to always be the winner.
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Post by Bob Brown on Oct 15, 2011 17:42:25 GMT -5
SENIOR MEN RIGHT 63KG 1. JUSSUPOV, MAMED KAZAKHSTAN (7964) 2. MALAS, SŁAWOMIR POLAND (7923) 3. BORLAKOV, MURAT RUSSIA (7992) 4. KNOWLES, BARRY UNITED KINGDOM (7977) 5. GOLOVANOV, VITLIY UKRAINE (7893) 6. FIOŁEK, RAFAŁ POLAND (7962) 7. ADAMYAN, ASHOT ARMENIA (7908) 8. FARAJOV, VALI KAZAKHSTAN (7973) 9. BALANDIN, OLEKSANDR UKRAINE (7890) 10. GRALAK, MACIEJ POLAND (7925) 11. BERIDZE, APOLONI GEORGIA (7928)
SENIOR MEN RIGHT 70KG 1. MNATSAKANYAN, VLADIMIR ARMENIA (7907) 2. UZDENOV, UMAR RUSSIA (7898) 3. CHERNYAVSKY, OLEG UKRAINE (7897) 4. DELIDJAKOV, HRISTO BULGARIA (7936) 5. BALAMUTOV, DMITRY RUSSIA (7902) 6. CHIPREANOV, ANDREI ROMANIA (7933) 7. BIRO, GEORGE ISRAEL (7909) 8. SAARANLUOMA, TOPI FINLAND (7911) 9. PIECHNA, ŁUKASZ POLAND (7929) 10. AKHMEDSHIN, IGOR RUSSIA (7901) 11. ONOKHOV, ALEXEY RUSSIA (7932) 12. GROCH, DAWID POLAND (8016) 13. SODERBERG, STEPHAN SWEDEN (7967) 14. PODGĂ“RSKI, MARIUSZ POLAND (7921)
SENIOR MEN RIGHT 78KG 1. ZOLOEV, KHADZIMURAT RUSSIA (7899) 2. TAYNOV, ARTEM UKRAINE (7913) 3. AMOLINS, JANIS LATVIA (7935) 4. DIMITROV, PLAMEN BULGARIA (7986) 5. MALAKHOV, ANDREY RUSSIA (7931) 6. KHASSANOV, ZHANALY KAZAKHSTAN (7960) 7. RUDNYTSKYY, ROMAN UKRAINE (7916) 8. TSVETKOV, OLEKSANDR UKRAINE (7888) 9. GROCH, DARIUSZ POLAND (8017) 10. RAIKHANOV, SHYNBOLAT KAZAKHSTAN (7990) 11. BICHILOV, TIMUR RUSSIA (7896) 12. KOPOSYEV, VITALIY UKRAINE (7894) 13. LOVEI, JOSEF FRANCE (7944) 14. STAROŃ, RADOSŁAW POLAND (7926) 15. MIRZASAIDOV, EVGENII RUSSIA (7906) 16. HYDEL, MAREK POLAND (7976) 17. MIKKOLA, TIMO FINLAND (7912) 18. BALASHOV, ALEXANDR KAZAKHSTAN (7975) 19. MNATSAKANYAN, ANDRANIK ARMENIA (7949) 20. TUMBEV, KALOYAN BULGARIA (7994)
SENIOR MEN RIGHT 86KG 1. BABAYEV, RUSTAM UKRAINE (7889) 2. GOLEMANOV, STOYAN BULGARIA (7987) 3. SERDYUK, EDURAD UKRAINE (7917) 4. KASAN, PETER SLOVAKIA (7996) 5. GETALO, ALEKSANDR KAZAKHSTAN (7981) 6. DOBROVIC, RADOSLAV SLOVAKIA (7978) 7. ROIZMAN, ARTIOM ISRAEL (7910) 8. KACHMAZOV, ALIK RUSSIA (7956) 9. BERRICHOA, SIMON USA (7963) 10. HENDERSON, PETER UNITED KINGDOM (7951) 11. SZEWCZYK, TOMASZ POLAND (9999) 12. ZINTSOV, ANDRYI UKRAINE (7955) 13. GETALO, SERGEY KAZAKHSTAN (7984) 14. CIPRONIS, ANARS LATVIA (7941)
SENIOR MEN RIGHT 95KG 1. LILIEV, ARSEN RUSSIA (7900) 2. HUTCHINGS, TODD USA (8002) 3. GUSOV, ALEXANDER RUSSIA (7905) 4. KHADAEV, CHARMEN RUSSIA (7997) 5. TCORIEV, DZAMBOLAT RUSSIA (7942) 6. MOLENDA, MARCIN POLAND (7970) 7. ANTONOVITCS, RAIMONDS LATVIA (7937) 8. MIROSHNYK, IGOR POLAND (7914) 9. WĘGLICKI, MICHAŁ POLAND (7972) 10. GETALO, YEVGENIY KAZAKHSTAN (7982) 11. PETROV, KALOYAN BULGARIA (7993) 12. KAJDAS, NATAN POLAND (7971) 13. LITOVTSEV, YEVHEN UKRAINE (7915) 14. ANDRYEYV, OLEH UKRAINE (7957) 15. LARIN, VADMIN UKRAINE (7953) 16. PYVOVAROV, IVAN UKRAINE (7895) 17. BALKOVOI, OLEH RUSSIA (7892)
SENIOR MEN RIGHT +95KG 1. CYPLENKOV, DENIS RUSSIA (7985) 2. PUSHKAR, ANDRIY UKRAINE (7918) 3. TRUBIN, DMITRIY KAZAKHSTAN (7961) 4. TOMSONS, NORMUNDS LATVIA (7940) 5. MATYUSHENKO, IVAN RUSSIA (7954) 6. GRIGAITIS, MODESTAS LITHUANIA (7959) 7. CADORETTE, JERRY USA (8003) 8. CHAPUNKHYAN, AZMEN ARMENIA (7950) 9. PATRIKEEV, SERGEI RUSSIA (7946) 10. SKALSKI, MARCIN POLAND (7927) 11. KONTRIMAS, DAINIUS LITHUANIA (7958) 12. KARPOV, VIACHESLAV RUSSIA (7945) 13. SHARAGOVICH, VIACHESLAV BELARUS (3090) 14. ANELAUSKAS, DARIUS NORWAY (7939) 15. BAGENT, TRAVIS USA (8005) 16. ORMANJI, LEONID MOLDOVA (7930) 17. OPPERMAN, TERENCE SOUTH AFRICA (7988) 18. PICKUP, NEIL UNITED KINGDOM (8888) 19. GŁOWACKI, SŁAWOMIR POLAND (7998) 20. DE BRUYN, ERENST SOUTH AFRICA (7989) 21. GHAZARYAN, JANIBEK ARMENIA (7947) 22. DEREVIANENKO, ANDRII UKRAINE (7919) 23. TURUNEN, TONI FINLAND (7999) 24. JANCZY, JAKUB POLAND (8000)
SENIOR MEN RIGHT OPEN 1. CYPLENKOV, DENIS RUSSIA (7985) 2. PUSHKAR, ANDRIY UKRAINE (7918) 3. TRUBIN, DMITRIY KAZAKHSTAN (7961) 4. TOMSONS, NORMUNDS LATVIA (7940) 5. ZOLOEV, KHADZIMURAT RUSSIA (7899) 6. CADORETTE, JERRY USA (8003) 7. HUTCHINGS, TODD USA (8002) 8. GRIGAITIS, MODESTAS LITHUANIA (7959) 9. PATRIKEEV, SERGEI RUSSIA (7946) 10. BABAYEV, RUSTAM UKRAINE (7889)
SENIOR WOMEN RIGHT 65KG 1. BACKMAN, SARAH SWEDEN (7965) 2. ILIUSHYNA, VIKTORIIA UKRAINE (7891) 3. LUCIA, DEBNAROVA SLOVAKIA (7979) 4. DAMIŃSKA, JOANNA POLAND (8004) 5. PETTERSSON, CAROLINA SWEDEN (7966) 6. LYSSOVA, YELEN KAZAKHSTAN (7983) 7. WAWRZYNIAK, MARLENA POLAND (7922) 8. KUNTUGANOVA, ZHULDYZ KAZAKHSTAN (7974) 9. OPALIŃSKA, MARTA POLAND (7924) 10. CHEKMAREVA, VICTORIA RUSSIA (7948)
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Post by Rob Vigeant Jr. on Oct 15, 2011 17:48:48 GMT -5
Just because hr lost to guys with better endurance doesn't mean he has none. That's like saying m Todd has poor endurance because he lost in later rounds to Devon...... Stupidity
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Post by Guy Lasorsa on Oct 15, 2011 17:49:06 GMT -5
Amazing pulling and effort by Todd Hutchings !!!!!
And Zoloev simply not from this planet just insane strength
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Post by Josh Handeland on Oct 15, 2011 18:47:08 GMT -5
It is kind of a stupid statement. Saying " he needs to work on his endurance" because he lost in a war for the first time in god knows how long is super ignorant. Talking about his endurance like you discovered his weak link.... He has no weak links.... He will continue to pull and dominate and his endurance won't be a factor as there is a small handful that can even make him work enough to make stamina a factor. How many waf titles ? How many eaf and zloty ? Those are big events where endurance is a big factor.... He seems to always be the winner. Probably more titles than anybody... it was just that after 1 long match he was gassed and Zoloev still beat Jerry even after the match with Rustam. I was just thinking that if he had more endurance he would have a better chance in the open class. That's all. No disrespect was meant to Rustam, I was merely stating, in a short post, my thoughts on today's tournament. Just because hr lost to guys with better endurance doesn't mean he has none. That's like saying m Todd has poor endurance because he lost in later rounds to Devon...... Stupidity That's a 1 on 1 match, it's completely different, if I said M Todd had less endurance than Devon that could be accurate. And I never said Rustam "has none" (endurance).
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Post by Josh Handeland on Oct 15, 2011 18:52:45 GMT -5
Why does everything have to turn into a debate with you? I didn't see you say anything to John in 09 when he said Rustam burns out quick / his power fades quickly. I wasn't trying to knock Rustam. He is an insanely strong armwrestler.
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Post by Matt Porter on Oct 15, 2011 19:58:44 GMT -5
Great tournament. John and co. were right about Hutchings, he is the real deal. Jerry is a trooper. His troubles may end up being a blessing in disguise if people want to underestimate him now. And Zoloev is silly. Engin, who would beat Zoloev in a best of 5 at 90kg and below?
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Post by Rob Vigeant Jr. on Oct 15, 2011 20:09:19 GMT -5
Debate? I never debated with you except over rankings. I simply think trying to figure out why he lost and where he needs to sharpen up after all he has done seems so silly. A long hook match then losing in a hook to a bigger world class puller thereafter is no reflection on anything. I didn't see John say that, I just recently got back on the board. Rustam is a hard read cause he's so far ahead . If he runs into zoloev and wins, then a war with arsen and wins, then say his brother and finally loses after 3 long wars and fails to make a final ..... It's not his endurance or him losing his touch as much as it is him running into the small handful back to back that can work him. He's human, so is Denis , pushkar and Devon.... They have limits. No argument, sometimes a situation doesn't need clarification.... It is what it is. Anderson silva is all the rage right now, seems unstoppable .... When he goes to sleep.... And he will, just like all before him, he will eventually, people will start to diagnose where he went wrong..... He didn't, it's the nature of the game
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