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Post by Leonard Harkless on Apr 7, 2012 16:57:58 GMT -5
Who are those 6 voting members of current WAF Executive board who voted 5-1 to veto EAF to lift sanctions implemented by EAF against General Secretary of WAF and suspended EAF directorate member Deneumostier? Don't know for sure but a betting man would say that the one vote against would be Europe. ;D |
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Post by Andy Freeland on Apr 7, 2012 22:40:41 GMT -5
"From the beginning of sport it was a place where nations or tribes could come together and compete rather than fight, to remember that we are more alike than different, and just to enjoy each others company"
That's for old farts! Let's just fight! Jk, thoes are some solid words of wisdom John.
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Post by Tero Lampikari on Apr 8, 2012 0:09:36 GMT -5
Who are those 6 voting members of current WAF Executive board who voted 5-1 to veto EAF to lift sanctions implemented by EAF against General Secretary of WAF and suspended EAF directorate member Deneumostier? Don't know for sure but a betting man would say that the one vote against would be Europe. ;D I bet, and if there are 6 voting members plus the president without a vote unless a tie I suppose the word RECUSAL didn't come to mind. Very nice. |
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Post by Tero Lampikari on Apr 8, 2012 8:02:54 GMT -5
"If you don’t take under consideration our warning, we’ll send copy of the newspaper to Sport Accor and to International Olympic Committee, to see who is dealing with them.
Best Regards
Assen Hadjitodorov, President of EAF."
I wonder what would be a proper disciplinary action for that?
Maybe it would be best for the sport to suspend them (Deneumostier and Hadjitodorov) both and bring some viability back to the sport?
Let the membership decide. JMO
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Post by Mike Skinner on Apr 8, 2012 10:04:52 GMT -5
In my opinion there are to many organizations in Armwrestling. There should be only one with one set of rules.
How legit would football, baseball, hockey etc. be if there were 6 or 7 different pro organizations with different rules.
Armwrestling needs to truly organize and unite before we even have a chance at getting into the Olympics.
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Post by Leonard Harkless on Apr 8, 2012 10:23:14 GMT -5
"If you don’t take under consideration our warning, we’ll send copy of the newspaper to Sport Accor and to International Olympic Committee, to see who is dealing with them. Best Regards Assen Hadjitodorov, President of EAF." I wonder what would be a proper disciplinary action for that? Maybe it would be best for the sport to suspend them (Deneumostier and Hadjitodorov) both and bring some viability back to the sport? Let the membership decide. JMO Look in my opinion as a armwrestler, WAF has no business interfering with EAF. Period. You talk about letting the membership decide, well maybe they should let the membership of EAF decide. This is EAF business and when WAF wanted to interfere, yes he said something that I wouldn't have. Again I say that the executive board had no business contriving to get around sanctions done by EAF. Everyone else is suppose to honor WAF suspensions but not the other way around? Anyway this is just my personal thoughts. |
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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Apr 8, 2012 12:14:32 GMT -5
Pshhh, EAF and WAF both a joke, Neither one wants us to be an Olympic sport, they would both dwindle away cause of what they really are. Oh and I've already seen the Decline in the WAF, ArmWars is taking over;not that I agree or disagre this happening, but ArmWars is paying money and putting some >>>Entertainment<<< into the sport. Truth. I personally don't care about WAF or the Olympic "dream". ArmWars is where it's at, no question. Well of course you would say that, cause You and a hand full of others basically "compete" at Armwars..There are thousands of others that don't and wish for some recognition too. |
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Post by Matt "CHOP" Bertrand on Apr 8, 2012 13:04:28 GMT -5
Truth. I personally don't care about WAF or the Olympic "dream". ArmWars is where it's at, no question. Well of course you would say that, cause You and a hand full of others basically "compete" at Armwars..There are thousands of others that don't and wish for some recognition too. Theres no way someone wouldnt want to be in the olympics. Thats everyones dream. I just wish everyone would get on the same page, bite the bullet, and make it happen. |
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Post by John Milne on Apr 8, 2012 13:40:40 GMT -5
Well of course you would say that, cause You and a hand full of others basically "compete" at Armwars..There are thousands of others that don't and wish for some recognition too. Theres no way someone wouldnt want to be in the olympics. Thats everyones dream. I just wish everyone would get on the same page, bite the bullet, and make it happen. I'm not sure if I can be more plain about it. I do NOT want AW to go Olympic. It is definitely NOT a dream of mine no matter what spin you put on it. I do not really enjoy WAF style tournaments, the super strict reffing (30+percent foul rate), the watered down competition (over 1000 entries), the lack of exposure, the lack of compensation, etc etc etc... it's not appealing to me at all. People attempting to push this Olympic bid need to realize that YOUR dream is not EVERYONE'S dream. Some do NOT want AW to go Olympic and I am one of them. |
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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Apr 8, 2012 16:46:48 GMT -5
Theres no way someone wouldnt want to be in the olympics. Thats everyones dream. I just wish everyone would get on the same page, bite the bullet, and make it happen. I'm not sure if I can be more plain about it. I do NOT want AW to go Olympic. It is definitely NOT a dream of mine no matter what spin you put on it. I do not really enjoy WAF style tournaments, the super strict reffing (30+percent foul rate), the watered down competition (over 1000 entries), the lack of exposure, the lack of compensation, etc etc etc... it's not appealing to me at all. People attempting to push this Olympic bid need to realize that YOUR dream is not EVERYONE'S dream. Some do NOT want AW to go Olympic and I am one of them. I certainly know that "Armwrestling" will never be an olympic sport in my life time. Even though I am retired.. My pt was there are many that "hope" it does, and thats ok to wish for it and to get the recognition that comes along with it. While a certain select few do ALL the time either at Armwars or OTHER Assocs that offer CHALLENGE MATCHES and the RARE SUPER match. Now do I know that SUPER matches r rare these days cause those that deserve that title want more than Promoters offer, of course, hence CHALLANGE matches. Yes, lack of exposure and compensation for all those 1000 Athletes, to bad those 1000 don't have Devon, but I am sure most can scream and yell and pose for those Armwars cameras as well as most too. Oh, and I am sure that HUGE payday u get from Armwars would go much further for those that compete at that WATER DOWN WAF or EAF, who live in those prospering eastern bloc Countries then in Canada Really, WAF is "watered down", really? First, qualify for it and go. Go pull 30-35 mostly Europeans, and see how you do, OH and bring DEVON TOO,before you call it watered down...how dare you! Super strict reffing? Really? Oh, u mean "Armwrestling" with in the rules...But, hey MOST of you "Armwrestlers" CAN'T. Yet still, most at these "shows" are "regulars" putting on a "show"! |
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Post by Ryan Adams on Apr 8, 2012 17:06:40 GMT -5
Christian made a great post.
It is fine if you want to just pull in Arm Wars, your garage, or your living room. It's also fine to want the sport in the Olympics. Arm Wrestling needs the Olympics just like other sports do like swimming. Who is going to watch swimming and give it the popularity like the UFC has? And you know what Arm Wrestling is great but it isn't as exciting to viewers as UFC fights. UFC doesn't need the Olympics and never will, it's huge and very wealthy. ArmWars may become better or whatever but it will never match the UFC. You think your gonna charge people and thousands of them to fill an arena to watch ArmWars? Arm Wrestling needs the Olympics. And more so the majority want it in the Olympics and actually want to be there. It's especially great that the Olympics TESTS for drugs. Armwars doesn't, so I don't care about ArmWars. To each there own. Sure people can get get past tests and find ways, but it's definitely gonna make it a lot harder for them.
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Post by David Owens on Apr 8, 2012 17:18:18 GMT -5
Yes the Olympics are full of "natural" athletes lmfao, why does armwrestling need the Olympics because you think having it in the olympics will give it the recognition it deserves, someone anyone name a gold medalist in the pole vault competition without google and then I'll agree every sport in the Olympics is better for it, we already have the equivelant of the olympics in waf the best armwrestlers in the world (for the most part) some choose to go for the payday rather than coming out of pocket to give others a chance at there spot can you really blame them for that? I just am no seeing what olympics is gonna give the sport that it doesn't already have......I am not a regular at armwars but for sure that IS my goal!!! I'd sure rather make money than spend it every single day of the week
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Post by John Milne on Apr 8, 2012 17:40:01 GMT -5
Christian you sound really bitter. You need to cheer up some.
I have qualified for WAF and chose not to go. If I wanted to go away for a week it would be to some place that is more of a tourist destination than Kazakhstan.
As far as the fouls, I rarely if ever get fouled out. However I hate watching worlds because of this. WAY too many fouls and boring matches. It's not to my liking, I hope you can find it in you to be respectful of that, however the tone or your messages would suggest otherwise.
NEVER did I say that I got a huge payday from ArmWars, so you don't need to spin that one. Lets try not to get too liberal with manipulating what I write here. I however do get compensated for competing, at least it's something to help with the costs.
I'm not sure what your fascination with Devon is, I hadn't brought him up but you seem to want to. Maybe you can message him with your concerns or issues.
Until then, chill out. I didn't start something personal with you however you seem to take it that way.
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Post by Matt "CHOP" Bertrand on Apr 8, 2012 18:44:20 GMT -5
Theres no way someone wouldnt want to be in the olympics. Thats everyones dream. I just wish everyone would get on the same page, bite the bullet, and make it happen. I'm not sure if I can be more plain about it. I do NOT want AW to go Olympic. It is definitely NOT a dream of mine no matter what spin you put on it. I do not really enjoy WAF style tournaments, the super strict reffing (30+percent foul rate), the watered down competition (over 1000 entries), the lack of exposure, the lack of compensation, etc etc etc... it's not appealing to me at all. People attempting to push this Olympic bid need to realize that YOUR dream is not EVERYONE'S dream. Some do NOT want AW to go Olympic and I am one of them. EASYYYY BUD!!! Even if your dream isnt the same as most on this board. WHy knock it!. Why would you not want AW in the Olmypics?? what would it hurt??? |
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Post by John Milne on Apr 8, 2012 18:49:34 GMT -5
OOOOOk Bud
I'm not knocking it. I'm just saying it's not for me.
I don't see it helping the sport. It keeps it on an amateur level, it's only every 4 years, it's more of the same that WAF offers, etc etc etc. I see professional armwrestling as something WAY better for all of us.
I'm not sure why many take this topic so personal.
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