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Re: over 350 pounds dumbell hold by Voevoda « Reply #61 on Apr 27, 2007, 3:54am »
hello Christian,
i am doing just fine,thx.how are you?i really hope that you are coming back stronger than ever my friend we miss seing you rocking the left hand competetions!
Bob,
the conditions of static holds is very important.the position that Voevoda holds the dumbell, is not a comfortable one since it would really put some incredible pressure on back.and i do not think that he could have a good balance in the way that he is holding that weight.also you are missing the main point,if you read my first post you will see that i mention his very relaxed face while holding that incredible weight.as Duke has mentioned,if he can hold 350 pounds of dumbell without strain then we guess that his limits must be over 400 pounds.i do not think that Artem's face would be so relaxed while holding 242 pounds,JMO.
John,
you inspire me! in master's age if you keep pulling strongly in seniors classes then it means that it is possible to do it.after many years i did my first one arm static pull up 2 weeks ago but it hurts since then.we will see how it will be in EAF.Tuncay was my guest in last weekend and he was telling me how friendly you have always been to him.i told him that you may visit us and this made him happy.
Guy,
if the curls have nothing to do with armwrestling then why do at least 95% of best ones in the world curl heavy weights? John Brzenk is an exception,he is smart,genetically gifted and capable enough to get everything he needs by table time.Brzenk should not be shown as an example because one have very little chance to reach where he is at by only spending time at table.i agree that table time is the most important factor to get better in armwrestling but IMO it is better to perform at the table with a stronger arm.i can count you all the current W.Champions in the world and i doubt if 5% of them is not lifting heavy weights.i sure know that Turkish pullers lift as heavy as they can.
Neil,
don't be embrassed for you are not alone about shaking while (two hand) curling those weights that some people curl with one hand.you shake at 85 kg and i shake at 75 kg i guess these old CCCP countries should not be allowed to pull with us,let them compete against eachother.maybe John Brzenk should sometimes visit them since he is from another planet
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Re: over 350 pounds dumbell hold by Voevoda « Reply #62 on Apr 27, 2007, 7:53am »
Does any one know what the world record bicep curl is ,and is it even remotly close to this kind of weight I thought it was Ronnie colman and it was somthing like 425 w/two arms Im not trying to directly compare the two I was just curius.
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Re: over 350 pounds dumbell hold by Voevoda « Reply #64 on Apr 27, 2007, 9:31am »
Strict and cheated are very very different. The STRICT 2-handed bicep curl is in the 200's, yes.. dunno the exact number, but I think it was over 250 at least. But again, these competitions are STRICT, they have a bunch of rules for that curling motion, so when you cheat curl these guys could do like 150 more pounds I bet.
And I know that's not what the picture is showing. I was just posting this because there has been a side discussion started about barbel curls/cheat curls/etc.
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Re: over 350 pounds dumbell hold by Voevoda « Reply #66 on Apr 27, 2007, 9:46am »
Guys,
What Alexy did or did not do is still not a bicep curl it is a static hold. I tried to look up a world record for a bicep curl and it came to me that he is NOT doing a bicep curl.
We call all hold much much more than we can curl. Probably at least 50% more.
Engin, I agree that this is not a real photo but I do believe it may be possible to do it.
Re: over 350 pounds dumbell hold by Voevoda « Reply #67 on Apr 27, 2007, 10:02am »
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hello Christian,
Guy,
if the curls have nothing to do with armwrestling then why do at least 95% of best ones in the world curl heavy weights? John Brzenk is an exception,he is smart,genetically gifted and capable enough to get everything he needs by table time.Brzenk should not be shown as an example because one have very little chance to reach where he is at by only spending time at table.i agree that table time is the most important factor to get better in armwrestling but IMO it is better to perform at the table with a stronger arm.i can count you all the current W.Champions in the world and i doubt if 5% of them is not lifting heavy weights.i sure know that Turkish pullers lift as heavy as they can.
I was being quick to answer Garrett and only joking some, because Garrett can curl a lot and in some cases on here it has been disputed on his form and just how much he can curl, yet he hasnt excelled on the table in comparision to the amount he can curl or says he can curl. Im sure in general we have both beat people who can curl more than us, although in our primes we were both near the top of our class in the curl area too. Yes John is an exception but prooves also that a great hand , lat, tricep, hold and sidepressure can overcome how much someone can curl
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Re: over 350 pounds dumbell hold by Voevoda « Reply #68 on Apr 27, 2007, 10:03am »
I believe the bicep could possibly hold this much weight. Look at John holding Semerenko during their Vendetta, and Michael Todd holding Ron Bath. These guys had a ton of weight on their bicep. But they are not in the position that Voevoda is in here. There is no possible way he holds that weight in that position. Maybe on a table with his back out of such a compromised position. If he can do that with that weight in that position he can would have to be capable of a 1500# deadlift.
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Re: over 350 pounds dumbell hold by Voevoda « Reply #69 on Apr 27, 2007, 10:18am »
Bob,
i agree with you,but not with that easy face or in that way.maybe on a scott bench.
Guy,
as i said before,curling is not the most important thing but it helps as long as you know how to curl in the way to benefit your arm for armwrestling,and as long as you already know how to armwrestle.
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