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Post by Aaron Blevins on Dec 4, 2010 12:16:37 GMT -5
Just wondering what everyone thinks. Made a list of current active top East & West Coast pullers. Don't know if i've got the West lineup right, but, should be close. And i'm talking East vs West, not anywhere else unless someone wants to come up with a Mid-America lineup.
Whats the best matchups and who wins, who has the better lineup, East or West?
I'm sure we all want to pull each other, but don't get a chance....here goes......
EAST (no order)
R. Klemba
D. Miller
S. Berriochoa
S. Shoemaker
A. Snook
A. Blevins
T. Russell
J. Andrews
M. Harris
D. Worley
WEST
A. Fisher
J. Smith
H. Ryden
K. Knapp
U. Jones
D. Nix
B. Dye
R. Davis
L. Kindt
M. McGraw
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Dec 4, 2010 12:35:03 GMT -5
Forgot Chad in that 76 lineup now too.
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Post by Bill Maenza on Dec 4, 2010 13:05:25 GMT -5
I don't know if Matt Harris is still active - but either way, I would add Cobra Rhodes.
BTW - Aaron, in about 3 months I plan on making that list!
Bill
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Post by Aaron Blevins on Dec 4, 2010 13:29:00 GMT -5
as far as Chad goes.....dont know if he will ever pull 76s again? and...Cobra is not east or west, he lives in Indiana...I think? and youre right Bill, not enough people know what youre capable of and who youve been training with for the past 20 yrs.... Matt? Saw him pull at AAAs last year...could take him off, I got no prob. with that. Simon...54s? I don't care if people want to make their own list of 10 different east and west coast 76s....just as long as they are from the east or west. My list is not the end all....just for conversation and maybe get some future match ups out of it. To be honest i'm kinda tired of pulling just east coast pullers and want some different conversation to entertain me on this board  |
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Post by Bill Maenza on Dec 4, 2010 13:35:38 GMT -5
Would love to pull some of those on both lists! Pulled Allen once...wasn't pretty!
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Post by Brandon Dye on Dec 4, 2010 14:38:12 GMT -5
EAST (no order)
R. Klemba
D. Miller
S. Berriochoa
S. Shoemaker
A. Snook
A. Blevins
T. Russell
J. Andrews
M. Harris
D. Worley
WEST
A. Fisher
J. Smith
H. Ryden
K. Knapp
U. Jones
D. Nix
B. Dye
R. Davis
L. Kindt
M. McGraw
Applying some critical analysis and thought on this if we had a East vs west with all these people involved breaking it down without personal (west) vs (east) bias, some of these matches could be analyzed although other could not because these people havent pulled many of the west coast guys vice versa.
Fisher would beat everyone on that list for the EAST, and as far as I know, none of those people have ever beat him. So best would be Fisher. If you were to have a one on one East vs West, depending on the match I would say East has a 5-4 advantage of the 9 listed for each area. I still think Jake Smith right now is at a point to surprise a lot of people at the next big tourney he goes to. So the discussion could be made 5-4 West. Kevin Harris is also west and he should be on that list above some of the others. This will always be a topic of descussion, has been before and will be in the future, it will always be speculation though because we will never see all these pullers at one tourney or even a East Vs West that I can forsee.
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Post by Josh Handeland on Dec 4, 2010 14:48:45 GMT -5
Simon's 154 so if he's on the East 176, Vazgen should be listed on the West 176. For midwest maybe something like this? Robertas Cobra Ethan Kevin Harris Tony Kitowski (can make 176) Sam Bowling Garrett Richardson Bobby Green (beastly left hand) or Paul Talbott (trains with Erie but lives in Ohio) or Mike Dawson For 9-10 can we take Devin Bair and Corey Miller since they are not on the West Coast List? (oops I just realized you didn't want a midwest list I don't think ) but we could be competitive with East and West I think. |
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Post by Aaron Blevins on Dec 4, 2010 15:10:12 GMT -5
Now were talkin....
Brandon, I would consider Kevin Harris "Central" hes from Nebraska, not east or west coast, but like you said, without much info on matchups becuase the lack of pulling between the two...its all conversation....
I would like to see the matchups you have Brandon and how youve got em broken down....
Josh, youre right, Vasgen could take the place of one of the west coast guys....
Also, if were talking east, west & central....I would think the Wyoming guys fall in the middle...
and T. Kitowski pulling 76s on a super rare occasion is like Chad Silvers pulling 76s very rarely, but capable....im talking more of what you see steadily throughout the year...
Lets see, hear, some matchups....
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Dec 4, 2010 16:35:02 GMT -5
Chad is staying at 76 Aaron. He was walking around 177lbs a couple months before the tournament. He has been eating very healthy.
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Post by Bill Maenza on Dec 4, 2010 16:51:04 GMT -5
Sorry - brain cramped on this one. Please put Craig Tullier on that list as well. Personally, I believe him to be the best East Coast puller and probably the only guy on the list that could possibly beat Allen. Allen is a beast. Though I think Allen may be a small 176 (think walking around somewhere near 165) - I would give him an edge on Chad (who is also a beast) due to Allen's hand.
Where would Roman be? I know the name but not where he is from. Everyone else is pulling for second then.
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Post by Aaron Blevins on Dec 4, 2010 16:53:04 GMT -5
Chad is staying at 76 Aaron. He was walking around 177lbs a couple months before the tournament. He has been eating very healthy. d@mn bro, you just can't help it can you? |
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Dec 4, 2010 16:53:29 GMT -5
I don't see Craig beating Chad. But I think the East would beat the West with all of our good pullers like Chad, Craig, Snook, Klemba, Harris, etc.......
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Dec 4, 2010 16:55:41 GMT -5
Chad is staying at 76 Aaron. He was walking around 177lbs a couple months before the tournament. He has been eating very healthy. d@mn bro, you just can't help it can you? Man you guys can say stuff all you want everyone always wants to factor him out of an equation, he would crush everybody on that list no brainer. I mean what he got to do to be considered up there?? I remember everyone saying I didn't respect Rakers. Who clearly is a F&%king monster. Just pulled a couple times and I got to see him to know what everyone meant. Im just saying. He is 76 for awhile bro. UAL around and all. |
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Post by Kevin Harris on Dec 4, 2010 17:00:55 GMT -5
You can't leave me out of a list like this. If you draw a line down the usa, you have east and west. Brandon has the most power. Luke has the best toproll. Allen is simple Allen. Jake has a lot of power, Harold is very fast. On the other side, Simon is the power house, Snook has the best top. Ron is the hardest to pull against. Chad is simple Chad. No clean over all winner. One long match or one bad call and the winners would change. I think we need to put this together this summer. In Omaha or Denver. That would be a central spot. Mary or Jeff would love to host this. I am game
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Post by Josh Handeland on Dec 4, 2010 17:18:40 GMT -5
and T. Kitowski pulling 76s on a super rare occasion is like Chad Silvers pulling 76s very rarely, but capable....im talking more of what you see steadily throughout the year... Lets see, hear, some matchups.... Tony weighed in at MN States at 185 fully dressed right after eating lunch. Just sayin' weight class there was 187. |
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