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Post by enginterzi on Mar 6, 2011 18:27:36 GMT -5
Rick, what other guy doing is also against the rules,my intention is not to criticise George but reminding the rules and that is why i also posted the 2. pic as well.but let s admit that Artem does not pull in that way and he just didnt know what to do as long as the humerus bone is not inclined down all is fine.
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Post by Tim Sears on Mar 6, 2011 20:47:23 GMT -5
Engin.....Engin your kidding right? he didn't know what he was doing com on.He's a professional and as far as he doesn't pull that way .......well guess what he did.
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Post by Bob Brown on Mar 6, 2011 21:02:25 GMT -5
The other guy is completely stretched out and is MUCH lower than George. By the way, it didn't work for him. As far as Michael Todd doing it, he looked just like the guy pulling George. He was all stretched out and it looked like the only way to pin him would have been to break his arm. Norm Devio and Ray Darling have done the same thing over the years. So i am curious Rick. Forgetting the rules for a moment. You must think that Mike, Norm and Ray when they were "completely stretched out" were not using muscle and tendon to maintain that position or why would you say "the only way to pin him would have been to break his arm"
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Post by Bob Brown on Mar 6, 2011 21:07:03 GMT -5
and when both sides do the same thing then we have armwrestling at its best; I tried to copy the photo from this post but it did not work. attachments.proboards.com/116101/teammaine/tjYZpzwPnj3H5PeMiAwe.jpgTo anyone who would like to answer, Forgetting the rules for a moment. Do you think that Artem should be aloud to armwrestle this way. With his arm totally straighten out. And if not why?
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Post by enginterzi on Mar 7, 2011 5:20:51 GMT -5
Engin.....Engin your kidding right? he didn't know what he was doing com on.He's a professional and as far as he doesn't pull that way .......well guess what he did. first,i meant he was hopeless and started to do none sense things. second,that is not his style (first time i saw him in that position). third,if George was allowed to do it why would he not. fourth,do not get involved with me.
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Post by Tim Sears on Mar 7, 2011 5:34:11 GMT -5
Hey Engin ...I will post like you anytime I feel like you and I will debate you on your facts, if this hurts you... don't post. I don't care if your legend or not .
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Post by enginterzi on Mar 7, 2011 5:42:21 GMT -5
i tell you to find someone else to discuss.at least listen your own advices; James you won't win the talk, he will be at it all day.
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Post by Tim Sears on Mar 7, 2011 6:07:06 GMT -5
Can't do that.....sorry
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Post by enginterzi on Mar 7, 2011 7:15:44 GMT -5
it has nothing to do with being legend or amateur.so no need to have low complexes to bring legend arguments in to the subject to play to the spectators.you suggest James Worke to not to discuss with me but you choose to do that.is that because you are smarter than James? in fact i find his arguments intelligent and we thanked eachother for sharing our thoughts.you can debate about anything you want as it is not my business,but as a board member i do not wish to get involved with you and its not your business.i asked to stop sign the same thing when he became a member first time and he had enough of respect for himself to respect what i asked him. if i do not wish to get involved with you it is not because i find you as a genius i would debate with anyone including the devil if its about armwrestling. these are all i can say from thousands of miles away.
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Post by Rick Laton on Mar 7, 2011 15:42:34 GMT -5
The other guy is completely stretched out and is MUCH lower than George. By the way, it didn't work for him. As far as Michael Todd doing it, he looked just like the guy pulling George. He was all stretched out and it looked like the only way to pin him would have been to break his arm. Norm Devio and Ray Darling have done the same thing over the years. So i am curious Rick. Forgetting the rules for a moment. You must think that Mike, Norm and Ray when they were "completely stretched out" were not using muscle and tendon to maintain that position or why would you say "the only way to pin him would have been to break his arm" Bob, I agree that they are still pulling hard and they are using everything they have to hold. I do think though that when you get COMPLETELY stretched out, if you can keep your wrist bent, that they cannot physically pin you unless they make your elbow angle go the other way (Break you arm). If you hang all your weight on the "Teeter Totter" like picture that Engin showed, it can only be done by breaking their wrist back or breaking their elbow joint. Again, in my opinion, what Ray Darling and Norm Devio used to do was TOTALLY different than what George is doing. George is not stretched out all the way (Maybe for a brief few moments during the match) most of the time. He is actually at around 120 degrees with his forearm posted straight up! Is that not the goal of all pullers? To pull back and post up to get our hand higher than our opponent? Isn't the goal to pull our opponent across the table and to post so high that eventually our arm is straight up and down and theirs is at a large angle? Don't we all try to post up so hard that our opponents hand goes "Down" around the bone on our wrist and then we take their hand? I think that George is so strong in this position that he EVENTUALLY takes everyone hand. I also don't think that he actually tries to pin anyone anymore. I think his goal is just to make them look silly. I STILL think that he is legal and he impresses me more and more every time I see him. I have no real idea why the rule was made to begin with but if I had to guess it would be to prevent what Ray and Norm (Haven't seen Norm do this in years by the way) were doing. Not to prevent what George is doing. I think that the rule needs an amendment. Maybe it should read that if your arm angle is more than a certain amount you cannot drop your shoulder below the level of the pad. Somebody that knows how, please post a picture of Ray Darling, Norm Devio and George in their lowest positions. I personally don't think that George will look anything like Ray or Norm. Thanks in advance.
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Post by enginterzi on Mar 7, 2011 16:38:03 GMT -5
Rick, do you think that George is capable of bringing his own hand to the pin pad at his losing side without raising his shoulder,in such position? Attachments:
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Post by Tim Sears on Mar 7, 2011 17:59:53 GMT -5
Engin I don't know where your going with this complex thing believe me, I am quite happy with who I am ......maybe just maybe it might be you who has complex issues, then all this would make sense. I have to say though you definitely keep me on the board more. I don't think I have talked so much till now. Anyway hate to brake it to ya your so called business on the board for all the world to see is every ones business. I would like to know what you mean by....that's all you can say being thousands of miles away.....please tell me what your saying?
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Post by enginterzi on Mar 7, 2011 18:10:47 GMT -5
since you brought the legend none sense into the argument then the answer is clear.about your question,its also clear to anyone who has average intelligence.
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Post by Tim Sears on Mar 7, 2011 18:15:48 GMT -5
I guess I'm not intelligent, tell me so I can understand my little friend.
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Post by enginterzi on Mar 7, 2011 18:17:44 GMT -5
I have to say though you definitely keep me on the board more. i begged you to ask me questions while you gave advice to someone else to not to communicate with me,right? James you won't win the talk, he will be at it all day. Engin.....Engin your kidding right? he didn't know what he was doing com on.He's a professional and as far as he doesn't pull that way .......well guess what he did. just check with yourself before writing.
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