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Post by Rob Vigeant Jr. on Feb 20, 2012 20:12:10 GMT -5
No, only because I was trained away from it I am gravitating towards an uncapped toproll, I get a better bite on the hand and am high enough to flop someone
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Post by Mark Harrison on Feb 20, 2012 21:22:07 GMT -5
Based on your physiological attributes, it would appear to me that your strongest move would be an ulnarly deviated pronating toproll with emphasis on using your bottom two fingers as a fulcrum for wrist flexion. Very difficult to hook, depending on your drive/hit vector, and equally as difficult to top without a slipout. If you did slip, it's a dangerous move in the straps if you add upwards pressure through a post. JMO of course.
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Post by Justin "Bama Bull" Bishop on Feb 20, 2012 21:58:48 GMT -5
well since everbodys telling there story.....my 1st tourny was last year Al state i entered 65 novice rh and lh no1 enter lh so they put me in pro i beat everbody but jeremy fraley. I even beat lee culpepper in the overalls. 1 month later i went to sec regionals and place 3rd should been 2nd but didnt have the endurance. I was much like you Rob i didnt like to get beat so i went 2 months later to nationals were jeremy pappy was gona be(the guy who bwat me rh) Ibeat him twice and place twice. I took 2nd under kris micheals at southeast pro ams, beat norm devio at that tourny. just won lh and rh at Al state and am recently ranked 3rd rh and should be about 3rd lh after they up date them. But i thought the same thing when i seen that clip and never even worked out b4 i started training 4 this sport i simply do the same kinda work. I would have to agree 100% i didnt think it was that "impresive" granted that i thought luke was gona crush him.
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Post by Justin "Bama Bull" Bishop on Feb 20, 2012 22:02:43 GMT -5
typo^^^twice should be 3rd
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Post by Rob Vigeant Jr. on Feb 21, 2012 0:12:04 GMT -5
Based on your physiological attributes, it would appear to me that your strongest move would be an ulnarly deviated pronating toproll with emphasis on using your bottom two fingers as a fulcrum for wrist flexion. Very difficult to hook, depending on your drive/hit vector, and equally as difficult to top without a slipout. If you did slip, it's a dangerous move in the straps if you add upwards pressure through a post. JMO of course. I have done this.... It feels real solid It takes practice to get confident and I need to get to practice.... The other problem is I like to hook..... Because I'm stubborn That bent wrist up pressure is like bill sinks....he is strap king
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Post by Mark Harrison on Feb 21, 2012 0:22:45 GMT -5
I have done this.... It feels real solid It takes practice to get confident and I need to get to practice.... The other problem is I like to hook..... Because I'm stubborn That bent wrist up pressure is like bill sinks....he is strap king I have a similar issue. It's difficult to overcome because muscle memory is a bitch to get around. I find it especially bad when I've dropped 15% or more in power; my wrist engages inside despite my brains best efforts to pronate. I find as I include more lat in a shoulder down post with the pressure focused on the meaty part of the thumb, I can overcome my bad tendency, but it still takes a conscious decision to do, instead of flowing as a transition based maneuver. All in due time, I suppose.
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Post by John Wilson on Feb 21, 2012 9:15:19 GMT -5
I have a similar issue. It's difficult to overcome because muscle memory is a bitch to get around. I find it especially bad when I've dropped 15% or more in power; my wrist engages inside despite my brains best efforts to pronate. I find as I include more lat in a shoulder down post with the pressure focused on the meaty part of the thumb, I can overcome my bad tendency, but it still takes a conscious decision to do, instead of flowing as a transition based maneuver. All in due time, I suppose. You just described me perfectly. The only negative I have found in this setup is that the 'conscious thought' part of it causes me to be a little slow on the go at times. Without a quick backpressure move I find it challenging to contain a high, fast sidepressure hit unless I can drive my hand immediately on the go. That's where the 'thinking too much' in the setup has cost me matches. I need to get this setup committed to muscle memory so I can clear my head.
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Post by Robert Miller on Feb 21, 2012 18:55:32 GMT -5
Good stuff guys... Justin U are a natural beast indeed bud!! I meet you @ the SE Pro-am & I remember how strong U were... couldnt believe you had only been pulling 1-year!
John, Sounds like you need to take the same advice you gave me bro... which helped me tremendously in my first novice tourny (which I won Btw;thanks!) Dont over-think on the go... "Grip & Rip" baby!!
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Post by Derek Smith on Feb 21, 2012 21:25:27 GMT -5
Based on your physiological attributes, it would appear to me that your strongest move would be an ulnarly deviated pronating toproll with emphasis on using your bottom two fingers as a fulcrum for wrist flexion. Very difficult to hook, depending on your drive/hit vector, and equally as difficult to top without a slipout. If you did slip, it's a dangerous move in the straps if you add upwards pressure through a post. JMO of course. Im either way too dumb or way too new to understand all this, not sure which.....
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Post by Mark Harrison on Feb 22, 2012 1:22:36 GMT -5
Based on your physiological attributes, it would appear to me that your strongest move would be an ulnarly deviated pronating toproll with emphasis on using your bottom two fingers as a fulcrum for wrist flexion. Very difficult to hook, depending on your drive/hit vector, and equally as difficult to top without a slipout. If you did slip, it's a dangerous move in the straps if you add upwards pressure through a post. JMO of course. Im either way too dumb or way too new to understand all this, not sure which..... Rob's physiological attributes that I talk about are his large, strong hand. Ulnarly deviated means your wrist is dialed downward, or a low grip, otherwise. Pronation is the movement of your hand where your palm turns towards the table; as opposed to supination, which is the opposite, palm facing upwards. I just use this terminology so that I get specific ideas across, as many peoples concepts of what moves actually involve are different.
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