SeungMin Bae
Gold Member
Chapel Hill, NC and South Korea
Posts: 506
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Post by SeungMin Bae on May 12, 2012 23:43:51 GMT -5
I have seen a few armwrestlers making scratches on their biceps... and sometimes pullers failed to lower their body quickly because of the edges... I think the table from Gerald Ronald is pretty awesome and other tables should be the same. What do you think? Also vote on www.IronArm.net
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Post by John Parton on May 13, 2012 0:03:37 GMT -5
The cornerless is great, but I like the padded top. does that table have padding? I can't tell. My personal table that my wife built is cornerless.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2012 7:49:37 GMT -5
I made one without harsh corners as well. I went back from the peg about 3" and then from the corner back 3" and took a slight larger chunk out of it. It looks kinda like a small 30/60/90 degree triangle laid over it and then hacked off.
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Post by Bull Dog Madore on May 13, 2012 8:51:37 GMT -5
I think that cornerless tables would be great for pullers with a shorter wingspan. It would certainly get novice pullers off the table when leaned over for a pin. Although, making your own cornerless table would pose more of a challenge than abutting square tubing together and throwing a rectangular top on it. What would be interesting is builting a skeletal structure that holds the necessities in place such as pads and posts leaving the rest of the top to the open air. What sort of regulations would there have to be if there aren't already any on cornerles tables? How far would people take it and would it be a problem? I say overall it's a great idea.
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Post by Alan Berget on May 13, 2012 9:13:32 GMT -5
I built mine with corners cut off at 45 degree angles about 3 inches back from the peg. I did this about 6 years ago and I brought it up to heads of the organizations and was told it is not to WAF specs. My argument on that is that all the dimensions are inside, pad to pad and peg to peg etc. As long as the width across and the pegs are correct, the outside corners are dead space. Basically all it's for is for the refs. Them corners have no affect on the pullers or any dimensions what so ever. And my table breaks down with legs that attach to the bottom of the top and to a platform. It meets all WAF specs cause I did it when I was a tool maker and it is to the number. Everyone that pulls on my table loves it.
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Post by Kirk Wickizer on May 13, 2012 9:21:53 GMT -5
I can see where it might prevent a percentage of arm breaks.
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Post by jamesretarides on May 13, 2012 9:52:41 GMT -5
Ron Klemba made one years ago in a diamond shape without corners and I liked it. The problem is that if they are not using this type of table at tournaments than you can establish bad habits if you get used to not having to worry about your peg arm resting on the table top. For the record, I liked the diamond shape table better than the ones we currently use.
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Post by John Wilson on May 13, 2012 10:10:39 GMT -5
I think that cornerless tables would be great for pullers with a shorter wingspan. It would certainly get novice pullers off the table when leaned over for a pin. Although, making your own cornerless table would pose more of a challenge than abutting square tubing together and throwing a rectangular top on it. What would be interesting is builting a skeletal structure that holds the necessities in place such as pads and posts leaving the rest of the top to the open air. What sort of regulations would there have to be if there aren't already any on cornerles tables? How far would people take it and would it be a problem? I say overall it's a great idea. I have the same thoughts of a skeletal table. I would love to see it and try it. SeungMin, that cornerless table looks fantastic. The next one I build or buy will be cornerless. I agree the corners serve no purpose except to get in the way. Useless. Anyone with the skill to make a table has the skill to cut and weld a cornerless frame. An added bonus is the table leg will be set an inch or 2 inward and maybe save a few kneecaps as a result.
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Post by Alan Berget on May 13, 2012 10:43:21 GMT -5
No bad habits. It is dead space that is unneeded
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Post by jamesretarides on May 13, 2012 11:30:08 GMT -5
I agree. But if you train on a table without corners and get used to it then you might have trouble if you pull on tables that are rectangular in tournaments.
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Post by Steven Lareau on May 13, 2012 12:18:25 GMT -5
Cornerless......great idea! I like it.
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Post by Mike West on May 13, 2012 12:59:49 GMT -5
The last table I made is cornerless, it has been used at Ray's tournaments, and our Midwest Challenge, everyone has liked it so far. My AW machine that I made has NO top, just a metal frame without corners, maybe I'll get a picture and post it, it could very easily be made into a AW table.
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Post by Eric Wolfe on May 13, 2012 13:50:52 GMT -5
My table has no corners! It's the best idea ever.. regardless of cost, every promoter should adapt to this design requirement. Its a win win!
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Post by John Bergstrom on May 13, 2012 16:42:41 GMT -5
8-)im trying to deside wether to put the moving pads or just go old school and put them center on my american flag table. eather way it will look very cool
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Post by John Bergstrom on May 13, 2012 16:45:09 GMT -5
the problem with that is that will move the legs as well
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