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Post by Robert Bishop on Aug 12, 2012 14:49:27 GMT -5
Thank you! congratulations Robert and Harold! Thanks Christian. It’s always a pleasure to pull Robert Bishop. Left hand I didn't have the rotation and he was simply too strong; right hand I was able to make the adjustments to stay away from his power. I'm sure we will meet soon again. Christian do you plan on pulling again in future? As for Storm, he is very strong indeed with his low post style top-roll; IMHO I don't think rankings should change drastically as Storm has growth to do and experience pullers (e.g., RVJ, Silvers, Rakers, McCoy) will exploit his youth; he needs to learn to counter hookers and pressers consistently. He is extremely strong in the top-roll! same to you Harold its always a lot of fun pulling you your right is feeling very strong now like to see a Harold vs Zinna best of five or seven just to see ;D
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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Aug 12, 2012 16:36:36 GMT -5
Harold, I physically am done. But Devon wants to pull me in Dec, but Marcin is low balling me... Plus y would I pull Devon or anyone else in AWing pull him, he is the greatest and no one will ever beat him....
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Post by Glenn Brooks on Aug 12, 2012 18:27:25 GMT -5
Great tournament. Even Better pulling at the after party.
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Post by Anthony Edens on Aug 13, 2012 10:03:37 GMT -5
Storm Chellino beat Logsdon outside. That impressed me, so I asked what he does to exercise his wrists and he says "nothing, I have done some farm and construction work". So, I'm thinking "what the heck?" and then he says he's only 21 and usually pulls 187lbs. To top it off, he is a really likable guy. On the ride home, the only word that kept popping in my head was "Storm". I'm definitely a fan!
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Post by Justin Kopa on Aug 13, 2012 10:31:34 GMT -5
Thank you! congratulations Robert and Harold! Thanks Christian. It’s always a pleasure to pull Robert Bishop. Left hand I didn't have the rotation and he was simply too strong; right hand I was able to make the adjustments to stay away from his power. I'm sure we will meet soon again. Christian do you plan on pulling again in future? As for Storm, he is very strong indeed with his low post style top-roll; IMHO I don't think rankings should change drastically as Storm has growth to do and experience pullers (e.g., RVJ, Silvers, Rakers, McCoy) will exploit his youth; he needs to learn to counter hookers and pressers consistently. He is extremely strong in the top-roll! . Experienced pullers? Lodgson isn't experienced? Lodgson wasn't considered the best 98 in the country? Lmao..what cud rakers do that lodgson didn't? As for McCoy...storm already beat west, razor and ballinger..all bad ass hookers, highly doubt that wud b a tuf match. But I wud like to see storm/silvers or storm/rvj. Shouldn't really shock the world if he beat them too.
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Post by Steven Green on Aug 13, 2012 11:13:03 GMT -5
Storm is a beast and a great guy. But looking back Robert is correct. He was seconds away from losing to Scott B. He also lost to Chase once at the last nationals.
He is beatable in a hook. I think he will get put in a hook at worlds very quickly. I hope not because I will be rooting for him.
I think the sky is the limit for storm but he will get caught in a hook from time to time and beat. But it will get increasingly difficult to get him there as he keeps learning.
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Post by kyledarby on Aug 13, 2012 11:43:53 GMT -5
As for Storm, he is very strong indeed with his low post style top-roll; IMHO I don't think rankings should change drastically as Storm has growth to do and experience pullers (e.g., RVJ, Silvers, Rakers, McCoy) will exploit his youth; he needs to learn to counter hookers and pressers consistently. He is extremely strong in the top-roll! . As for McCoy...storm already beat west, razor and ballinger..all bad ass hookers, highly doubt that wud b a tuf match. But I wud like to see storm/silvers or storm/rvj. Shouldn't really shock the world if he beat them too. What those three would be difficult for Herman to beat? To imply that Herman would be an easy match for anyone is arrogant. I heard that Storm lacks some technique and dimension. Had it not been for Bart Wood relaying some setup advice he might have lost to Chase in the finals at Unifieds. This isn't a knock on your boy just proof he's human.
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Post by John Schnell on Aug 13, 2012 11:49:24 GMT -5
From what I have been told, Storm is humble as hell and well aware of where he needs improvement. He also learns quickly and, as aforemention, is only 21. He will go as far as he wants to, and should eventually be 220 by the time he hits 30.
Knowing that a nasty hook can beat him is one thing, manipulating his hand is another. I agree that he will have a hard time at (his first) worlds, as the Euro guys like to "euro hook". But he will learn. Let's not also forget, as Harold pointed out, he low hand toprolls. That is a good enduring style that improves with strength. It is very controlled. If he can keep himself from being dumped into a hook, he may have a world title in his near future. He can only get better.
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Post by Justin Kopa on Aug 13, 2012 11:56:14 GMT -5
Of course he's beatable and human and all Europeans do is hook but if he can keep them out of it no 87 can match his hand. The only way to beat him is inside but that's getting better too. Bottom line is the kid won all 3 nats right hand and should b at least top 5 and deserves respect, not all this "well so and so wasn't there and if Bart wood didn't help and so on..."
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Post by kyledarby on Aug 13, 2012 12:11:25 GMT -5
Of course he's beatable and human and all Europeans do is hook but if he can keep them out of it no 87 can match his hand. The only way to beat him is inside but that's getting better too. Bottom line is the kid won all 3 nats right hand and should b at least top 5 and deserves respect, not all this "well so and so wasn't there and if Bart wood didn't help and so on..." I agree well stated.
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Post by Robert Bishop on Aug 13, 2012 13:36:31 GMT -5
by the way congrats Steve Green you looked very strong and a lot better now from ill st 2011 nice to see my friend John Creekmore pulling again and beating some good pullers but Steve was just to strong for him also congrats to my teamate Molly Dejohn who is a multiple time national and world champ and still only sixteen lol by the way steve needs his changed to national champ and troy stuhans status
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Post by Harold Owens II on Aug 14, 2012 21:03:13 GMT -5
I was only stating from experience of pulling Storm, Ballinger, McCoy, West, Silvers and Rakers; I was stating that Storm just need to be consistent in his attacks with hookers. I’m not sure if he is comfortable pulling a great hooker best of 6 yet (e.g., RVJ). If he reads this thread I think he would agree and understand. He is definitely top 5. He is only 21! I think he knows something now about pulling hookers
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Post by Steve Inzalaco on Aug 15, 2012 23:54:23 GMT -5
STEVEN GREEN...Dont forget to ask for your well deserved Blue Stars bro!
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