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Post by Willie Reagan on Dec 1, 2013 19:51:46 GMT -5
For Jake Smith? He is dominating his class! This young man is a beast. Who is going for his title? Just curious. I love to watch his videos. He has an attitude, but he is backing it up! Lookin good Jake! Keep up the hard work bro!
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Post by Rob Vigeant Jr. on Dec 1, 2013 20:16:38 GMT -5
I'd say now that bongard and sinks are down to 185 it thickens up that weight class talent pool quite a bit
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Post by Robin the manhandler Chandler on Dec 2, 2013 1:33:14 GMT -5
I wouldn't count Justin bishop out just yet loosing always makes you train harder
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Post by Rob Vigeant Jr. on Dec 2, 2013 9:27:48 GMT -5
I wouldn't count Justin bishop out just yet loosing always makes you train harder Absolutely, he will be lined up for another shot soon enough. I would really like to see justin at 165 as he is big for that class and IMO the biggest threat to corey
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Post by Rick Laton on Dec 2, 2013 9:48:57 GMT -5
I guess Tullier must not have signed because I'm sure that he would be the top candidate at this point.
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Post by Rob Vigeant Jr. on Dec 2, 2013 10:09:03 GMT -5
He would be one of the tops...but not automatically the top...there would still be the bongard/sinks hurdle. I think bongard is a BIG problem in this clas, His horsepower is off the charts. Bill is another person in the straps, He did beat chad silvers in a super match
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Post by Rob Vigeant Jr. on Dec 2, 2013 10:10:13 GMT -5
We should have a pullers vote to see this one go all 5
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Post by Willie Reagan on Dec 2, 2013 10:27:42 GMT -5
I was wondering about Tullier. Bongard will be nasty at 185! So will Sinks. This will throw a whole new mix in that class. What about Chad? Is he signed?
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Post by John Wilson on Dec 2, 2013 10:31:50 GMT -5
Bongard is going to give anyone in that class a world of trouble not only his off the charts horsepower but that ridiculously long forearm is going to make everyone feel like they are setting up against a sky crane
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Post by John Wilson on Dec 2, 2013 10:38:59 GMT -5
Sinks is going to wreck anyone that doesn't pin him quickly. He has so much hand that I'm not sure who stands much of a chance. As soon as he is danger of a bad position he's going to the strap.
Sinks in the strap is probably unbeatable in that class- Bongard is probably the only one with a long enough arm to keep Bill's wrist flat in the strap. Even then, if Bill rolls out hard in the strap his horsepower and endurance are going to be more than most guys can hold onto. Chad had total hand control three times against Bill and Bill just smoked Chad's arm until Chad couldn't even get a grip. Bill is DANGEROUS.
Justin will make changes based on his match with Jake, and Jake will only get better as well. He looked great against Justin, and Justin has proved how hard it is to do that. I think Justin will put more emphasis into going inside and using those pipes of his to tie people up. His outside move is incredible, but we all know what happens when an outside move gets stopped. If you are over committed outside it is very hard to change directions.
I think Chad has the most horsepower in that class and he has the hand that can bring Bongard down lower to the table top.
Tullier isn't signed, so we can't really talk about him too much. If Tullier were in that class than Bongard is the only one I see beating him, and Craig is so smart in the setup that he may get Bongard down low enough in a ref's grip that it takes away most of Kevin's weapon. If Craig gets hand control noboby beats him. That's just my opinion.
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Post by Jake Smith on Dec 2, 2013 11:34:41 GMT -5
Thanks mr Reagan. This class is re tarded. Everywhere you look is a champion. I think about it everyday. Choose your poison seems to be the motto. All the top 5 guys are amazing pullers. Some are legends
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Post by Nate Gagnon on Dec 2, 2013 13:25:05 GMT -5
Sinks is going to wreck anyone that doesn't pin him quickly. He has so much hand that I'm not sure who stands much of a chance. As soon as he is danger of a bad position he's going to the strap. Sinks in the strap is probably unbeatable in that class- Bongard is probably the only one with a long enough arm to keep Bill's wrist flat in the strap. Even then, if Bill rolls out hard in the strap his horsepower and endurance are going to be more than most guys can hold onto. Chad had total hand control three times against Bill and Bill just smoked Chad's arm until Chad couldn't even get a grip. Bill is DANGEROUS. Justin will make changes based on his match with Jake, and Jake will only get better as well. He looked great against Justin, and Justin has proved how hard it is to do that. I think Justin will put more emphasis into going inside and using those pipes of his to tie people up. His outside move is incredible, but we all know what happens when an outside move gets stopped. If you are over committed outside it is very hard to change directions. I think Chad has the most horsepower in that class and he has the hand that can bring Bongard down lower to the table top. Tullier isn't signed, so we can't really talk about him too much. If Tullier were in that class than Bongard is the only one I see beating him, and Craig is so smart in the setup that he may get Bongard down low enough in a ref's grip that it takes away most of Kevin's weapon. If Craig gets hand control noboby beats him. That's just my opinion. Great write up--very good read
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Post by Simon Berriochoa on Dec 2, 2013 13:55:57 GMT -5
Signed with UAL, signed with someone else and not signed at all... makes this a bit complicated.
At 185 though in no order.... Bongard Sinks Silvers Tullier AD Allen Ford George Rau Selearis Storm
That's pretty ugly.
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Post by Rob Vigeant Jr. on Dec 2, 2013 14:08:41 GMT -5
Of that list... I'd say bongard, sinks, silvers and Selearis are above the pack in their own group... With bongard being the guy to beat...I believe Selearis and silvers have beaten George as well, but he is without question top of that mix.
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Post by Simon Berriochoa on Dec 2, 2013 14:28:04 GMT -5
There is a lot varying styles in these pullers, and a sharp matchmaker could really make something brilliant out of this mix. Allen Ford for example will give hell to most, however Bongard's long arm would be tough for him to pin.
This kind of requirement to be a great all around puller is what I love about this sport but some of it gets lost in these challenge match formats.
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