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Post by Trapper Saltzman on Jun 4, 2014 18:05:12 GMT -5
Well its been confirmed!! Steven Green Vs Tom Dixon SuperMatch Right-Hand at 245Lbs!!! Pick your winner!!!!
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Post by Todd Smiley on Jun 5, 2014 10:15:48 GMT -5
Here's my opinion on it.
Most people don't even know who Tom Dixon is. He hasn't pulled for 2 years. He hasn't been training. He pulled his first tourny in MN 2 months ago since his last tournament and the best puller there was Andrew B.
When he was pulling regularly he was very young and did do well. Finishing 3rd in the men's 220 class at nationals at age 16. He placed 6th R and 10th L at worlds in the junior heavy class. (the kid who won the class was 320lbs) He took a year off. In 2008 Finished 5th in the mens 242 class (Entered with a weight of 223 fully clothed) Then finished 2nd R and 5th L in the juniors open weight class. The russion that beat him was about 45lbs heavier. Since Worlds at Canada he hasn't done much. Pulled a couple Toproll events getting crushed by Doug Allen in a super match in 2010 but coming back to place ahead of him in the tourny winning the 242 and heavy right over Shane Lattimer.
Steven Has been pulling and working hard, got a national championship, hase RECENT wins on guys like Eric Brown and is going to go do some work in Vegas. He has been much more consitent in pulling and working out.
So even though I have to go with my brother.. I give the edge to Steven. Everything shows he's been working hard and competing. So if Tom beats Steven it will be a suprising upset and if there is an upset to be had.. Tom is the one to be able to do that. Essentially Tom is a nobody to most people. Steven is a competitive puller.
Logically there is not much to argue for Tom and Steven takes this.. but there also are not enough recent matches from Tom for anyone to compare. Andrew B is the only person to have pulled him recently that can positivly say how strong Tom feels and compare to the guys Steven has pulled too.
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Post by Scott Harris on Jun 5, 2014 10:27:03 GMT -5
Steven
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Post by Shawn Lattimer on Jun 5, 2014 15:56:37 GMT -5
Here's my opinion on it. Most people don't even know who Tom Dixon is. He hasn't pulled for 2 years. He hasn't been training. He pulled his first tourny in MN 2 months ago since his last tournament and the best puller there was Andrew B. When he was pulling regularly he was very young and did do well. Finishing 3rd in the men's 220 class at nationals at age 16. He placed 6th R and 10th L at worlds in the junior heavy class. (the kid who won the class was 320lbs) He took a year off. In 2008 Finished 5th in the mens 242 class (Entered with a weight of 223 fully clothed) Then finished 2nd R and 5th L in the juniors open weight class. The russion that beat him was about 45lbs heavier. Since Worlds at Canada he hasn't done much. Pulled a couple Toproll events getting crushed by Doug Allen in a super match in 2010 but coming back to place ahead of him in the tourny winning the 242 and heavy right over Shane Lattimer. Steven Has been pulling and working hard, got a national championship, hase RECENT wins on guys like Eric Brown and is going to go do some work in Vegas. He has been much more consitent in pulling and working out. So even though I have to go with my brother.. I give the edge to Steven. Everything shows he's been working hard and competing. So if Tom beats Steven it will be a suprising upset and if there is an upset to be had.. Tom is the one to be able to do that. Essentially Tom is a nobody to most people. Steven is a competitive puller. Logically there is not much to argue for Tom and Steven takes this.. but there also are not enough recent matches from Tom for anyone to compare. Andrew B is the only person to have pulled him recently that can positivly say how strong Tom feels and compare to the guys Steven has pulled too. Thats Shawn Lattimer. And beating my right after a super match with Nick Zinna doesn't really mean too much. I was worthless at that point. That being said, I have no clue who will win.
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Post by Andrew Bieganski on Jun 5, 2014 17:02:22 GMT -5
Like I said on Facebook. My opinion if Tom gets in his spot inside I see Tom winning. But Stevens back pressure is frickin insane!! And hard to get into a comfortable position also tom isn't nearly as strong if you get him out of his spot. (Prolly the case with most people tho) Even when Toms not pulling all the time he seems beastly. Him and nick zinna had a war the last time he pulled before mn. I also heard he beat Rakers when he was 17 wich is frickin insane. But after sein Steven and Eric brown. Steven looks rediculous. So go green. Really wanna c this match. It's gonna b intense!!
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Post by Todd Smiley on Jun 7, 2014 18:38:34 GMT -5
Thats Shawn Lattimer. And beating my right after a super match with Nick Zinna doesn't really mean too much. I was worthless at that point. That being said, I have no clue who will win. My apologies Shawn,, I fat fingered that one. Not taking anything away from you, but He also pulled Doug in a super match before hand and pulled TWO classes. I don't know how much it took out of you, but Doug beat Tom, lost to Steven, Tom beat Steven, Tom won the bracket. Tom won the heavy class too. Either way.. that was several years ago. Nobody is even the same after a few months let alone a few years.
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Post by Shawn Lattimer on Jun 7, 2014 19:28:27 GMT -5
My point was my right sucks, and I was worn out, so beating me isn't much to grade a guy on. Beating my right when I'm fresh didn't mean much then, and still doesn't...LOL.
I know he's a good puller, and I know how good Green is. Very tough to call.
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Post by Todd Smiley on Jun 7, 2014 20:58:18 GMT -5
My point was my right sucks, and I was worn out, so beating me isn't much to grade a guy on. Beating my right when I'm fresh didn't mean much then, and still doesn't...LOL. I know he's a good puller, and I know how good Green is. Very tough to call. I always thought you looked pretty solid.
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Post by Shawn Lattimer on Jun 12, 2014 17:54:24 GMT -5
My point was my right sucks, and I was worn out, so beating me isn't much to grade a guy on. Beating my right when I'm fresh didn't mean much then, and still doesn't...LOL. I know he's a good puller, and I know how good Green is. Very tough to call. I always thought you looked pretty solid. I get lucky every now and then......
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Post by Todd Smiley on Jul 12, 2014 14:56:40 GMT -5
No call no show from Steven. He called 15 minutes before the start of the tourny.
Per Trapper, "Steven called and said something came up. Not gonna make it"
If something came up and it's a 4.5-5 hour drive from KC wouldn't he have called this morning. He would have had to be on the road by 8. Or a call This afternoon even? Why wait until 2:45 when the match is at 3?
I understand when things come up.. But no notice?
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Post by Steven Green on Jul 13, 2014 0:31:28 GMT -5
I told the event promoter (who organized the match) that plans had changed on June 25th. It's seems you have bad info Todd.
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Post by Todd Smiley on Jul 13, 2014 8:39:02 GMT -5
I told the event promoter (who organized the match) that plans had changed on June 25th. It's seems you have bad info Todd. There's no doubt there is some bad info floating around. Figuring out who's giving it though is the problem. Talked to Trapper again last night and he said he wasn't told that. Yet he didn't reply on the FB post either to confirm/deny your story. Someone isn't being upfront. Just trying to decide who.
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Post by David Marrocco on Jul 13, 2014 9:17:28 GMT -5
If I had to Guess Steven Is Full of it!!!!!
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Post by Steven Green on Jul 13, 2014 9:20:12 GMT -5
I am out the 12th. Sorry bro. I got called out of town.
Thaaaaaat,,,blows.
Above is the exact message and his response from the 25th.
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Post by Todd Smiley on Jul 13, 2014 10:00:32 GMT -5
If I had to Guess Steven Is Full of it!!!!! I don't agree with you Dave. Steven sent the message from the 25th and showed it for everyone to see on FB. I'm thinking a couple apologies are owed or an explanation why Tom wasn't told 3 weeks ago the match was canceled by the guy who set it up. Thanks for being a stand up guy Steven.
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