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Post by Ryan Thames on Feb 8, 2006 18:44:01 GMT -5
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Feb 8, 2006 22:13:12 GMT -5
Gosh ya'll are mean to Ryan maybe people should jump down your throats for expressing anything that ya'll believe in. Like we all said you DON'T HAVE TO LISTEN. JMO......
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Post by Austin Slater on Feb 8, 2006 23:56:38 GMT -5
Ty,
Does scientology believe in a higher power? Not ripping you just curious buddy. Im still not understanding your reasoning on why religion is messed up. Isnt scientology a religion that was started by a science fiction writer? I just find it odd that people rip Ryan and then follow that up doing the same thing by pushing thier views . . .
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Post by Ryan Thames on Feb 9, 2006 6:33:21 GMT -5
What scientologist believe about.......
FOUNDER
Founded by L. Ron Hubbard (1911-1986) Founded 1954 in California. Current headquarters in Los Angeles, California
WRITINGS
Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health and others by Hubbard. The way to happiness.
GOD
Does not define GOd or Supreme Being, but rejects biblical description of God. Everyone is a "thetan," an immortal spirit with unlimited powers over its own universe, but not all are aware of this.
JESUS
Jesus is rarely mentioned in Scientology. Jesus was not the Creator, nor was he an "operating thetan" (in control of supernatural powers, cleared from mental defects). Jesus did not die for sins.
HOLY SPIRIT
THe Holy Spirit is not a part of this belief.
SALVATION
No sin or need to repent. Salvation is freedom from reincarnation. One must work with an "auditor" on his "engrams" (hang-ups) to acheive the state of "clear" then progress up the "bridge to a total freedom"
DEATH
Hell is a myth. people who clear of engrams become operating thetans.
OTHER BELIEFS
Members observe birth of Hubbard and anniversary of publication of Dianetics. COntroversy follows the group worldwide. Time magazine and Readers Digest have published damaging exposes, Organizations related to Scientology include Narconon, Criminon, Way to Happiness Foundation, WISE, Hubard College of Administration, Applied Scholastics.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Feb 9, 2006 6:36:44 GMT -5
Scientology is one of the biggest scams.
Its all Science fiction. Written by a science fiction writer.
People wanna slam me and other christians making comments about our "fictional book", the Bible. the do this in an insulting manner.
they state their opinoin on in being fictional..
Scientology IS fictional and WAS written by a science fiction auther.
This is FACT not opinoin or an insult to the followers of the belief.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Feb 9, 2006 6:38:41 GMT -5
Anytime an average joe man begins a religion and writes about himself and makes the rules to lift him up. it is a cult.
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Post by TK on Feb 9, 2006 9:30:28 GMT -5
I'm working on my own Religion now.....got good ideas...just need a catchy name... Toddism....Kingism...toddology...something to that nature.... lol...... TK
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Post by Ty Kissner on Feb 9, 2006 9:50:32 GMT -5
Todd------redneckism-that'd be good.
to the rest of you who asked about my sceientology beliefs...I'm an evolutionist who strongly agrees with Charles Darwins theory's. I also think what scientology is saying is extremely acurate.
1.There is no hell-have any of us been there? Some people would say were in it now. 2.God-who is he, have any of seen him? We dunno and no 3.the bible-written by Man who interpreted what they believed God was saying-so anything can be written and declared as gods words.
So in terms of scams all religion is a scam. Its used to control and inflence those with less power into a state that religious society can take advantage of.
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Post by Ty Kissner on Feb 9, 2006 9:53:18 GMT -5
Austin i respect your comment but where did i push my views on scientology?
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Post by Austin Slater on Feb 9, 2006 10:21:46 GMT -5
Ty-wasnt refering you you bro.
On the issue of anything can be written down and said to be Gods words I totally agree. That is why we should test what others write down and this narrows down what has the potential to be truth and what doesnt. I thought the bible was full of errors, copied thousands of times so it must of changed etc untill I actually looked at the evidence and was proven otherwise. I also used to be a darwinian evolutionist as well and have since changed after reviewing the lack of evidence for it. This doesnt make me right just my opinion.
On the issue of religion, Jesus actually agreed with alot of what you said and was against organized religion becaus it leads to corruption as we have seen throughout history. Christianity isnt religion though would be my arguement. . .
Hope I havent offended anyone and God Bless guys
Austin
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Post by Austin Slater on Feb 9, 2006 10:22:31 GMT -5
redneckism doesnt sound like a bad idea though and Ive probably been accused of it plenty of times.
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Post by Mark Evans on Feb 9, 2006 10:35:26 GMT -5
Ty, you haven't been out of line in my opionion. Darwin himself later said his theory is just that a theory. I believe in the Great Spirt who I refer to as God, and I believe in Jesus Christ, why? Because since I have and tried to the best of my ablity to live as he wants us too my life has gotten better. Have I seen him? No. Have I seen what he can do and has done? Yes. For me, thats good enough. The rest is, we will have to wait and see. Take care!
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Post by Ty Kissner on Feb 9, 2006 10:40:04 GMT -5
Thanx boy's, Redneckism would be a great religion, but we'd have to get jeff foxworthy as the lead bishop.and larry the cable guy as our holy father. Now that would make church interesting.
On a serious note though, we are all free to choose what ever we belive, thats why were not in Iraq right now, so feel free to believe what you want, just be carefull to not push it on others.ahem....Mr. Thames.......................
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Post by Austin Slater on Feb 9, 2006 11:28:23 GMT -5
Good stuff guys.
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Post by TK on Feb 9, 2006 12:42:22 GMT -5
golly gee TY,
Todd------redneckism-that'd be good.
hey man...thats a good one...and it was a quick one....
actually i like it.....we can all have mullets, Firebirds , & bang our sisters.....lol
i'm sorry guys...i know religion is important to others and it's important to me.....
but it's not my every waking moment thing......i think some people don't know where the line is....
Scientology...dude it was created...sorry.
too many bibles ..too many gods...too many rules....
lifes too short.....at least Scientology is better than being a jahovas witness....
or is it?
God loves you all......even the Johovas & Sciencetology folks...
TK
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