Ray H and Dave Devoto

[Chris Coletti]

Dave,
I wanted to start out this post thanking you for giving us such a tremendous gift. Now onto next year...any chance of a 138 class

Ray,
Just wanted to say congrats on a tremendous performance in Vegas!

James R is 100% correct when he says that you have no reason to defend a win!
Cobra is a true champion and legend and shows it by not joining in the excuse party Engin has been partaking in. Other champions like John B who is without question the best puller who ever stepped to the table took a loss and showed his character by "Taking it" and giving Todd his props! He never complained about being worn out or injured or any other crap that I see being spewed here.

I am sure that Cobra is counting down the days until the rematch! I admire Cobra and respect him. To come back after such a long layoff and jump into a tourny of that magnitude shows not only his talent but his toughness. Cobra in my opinion will always be one of the best 176 and under pullers to grace us with his talent.

Thank you Gary! I love ARMTV.

Engin,
You need to get a membership to armtv and watch the match with Ray and RJ (which was well before the match with Cobra). To say that you wore Cobra out is an insult to both him and Ray. I would say that you are lucky you didn't face Ray...If you want to prove me wrong I will have $500.00 on the table at Charles Warmacks tourny "Battle at the Beach"to the winner

I will close by saying this...Before all the legal crap with Mike Tyson I was a huge fan. It was awesome to watch his opponents fold just waiting for the hammer to drop. When he finally lost to Buster Douglas it was a war! The most disappointing thing about the loss in my opinion was the way in which Mike handled it…Excuse after excuse! Taking a loss or disappointment and the way you handle it is in the essence of who we are..it is our Zen. Cobra is a legend and will be back with fury!
Stop patting yourself on the back and taking credit for Rays win… he won..that’s the game.
If you want to respond to me , maybe you should start with an apology to Ray…just a thought from a guy on the outside looking in

[enginterzi]

Chris,

how about me armwrestling Ray for 5000 dollars?

if Ray armwrestled RJ for a long match it only shows me that he wasnt that good.because RJ is at nowhere even close to how he was at prime.Olin beat him much faster than Ray did.excuse for what???try to do something with your own instead of doing this.to my opinion Olin looked very good.

also i gave all the credit to the russian by saying that he was stronger,but you are too blind to see it.i also gave all credit to Soliwada with left arm.even i have beat the russian who beat Soliwada easily.yes,my rms are very badly you dont know it.i dont wanna get involved with you.last time you started this crap you apoligised and erased all your posts,then i did the same by showing you kindness.but you dont learn,because you are not satisied with your own and satisfied by others success.

Cobra has told me that he didnt compete 176s because he didnt think that he had enough endurance for now.i didnt only write that wore Cobra out,i also wroe that he wore me out too.there is no disrespectfulnes in this,bt you again talk for another just to start crap between i and Cobra.i gave all the respect to Cobra to his face and behind his face.you are a very disrespectful man.gve me a favour and dont use my name anywhere,as i dont even remember your name in my personal life.also quit being an advocate for others.from now on i will only may get involved with you whenever you are ready o put at least 5000 dollars on table against me.otherwise please quit disturbing me.there are other ways to get satisfaction,try them.qit horrasting me fr i already feel terrible and i dont wanna do something wrong while im stil in USA.

i hope you understand and respect.take care

[Ryan Thames]

Engin,
Chris is right the things you wrote sounded very degrading and disrespectful against Ray.

Ray, Rj and Olin are excellent armwrestlers and competitors. And there all some realy nice guys even. They deserve to be treated better than being played down like that.

[leonard]

Chris,
Stating the facts is not making excuses. We have all said that who you draw and when will play a part in the outcome. The level of competition was so high that top level guys and girls were taking an edge of each other. Ray had killer matches that day also just like Engin. I was very impressed with Ray in his matches with Fisher and Cobra. Engin also had great battles and saying that he got hurt is not making excuses but merely stating the facts. No one should put down any of these athletes performances in this event. It was awesome. ;D

[Rob Bigwood]

"It was awsome."

Is an understatement!!!!!!!!!

Are the dates set for next year? It was nice meeting you Leonard...

[enginterzi]

this is what i hate Ryan.by using others name you guys are creating troubles.

RJ and i are good friends,i ,him and his wife had a long conversation before the competeion started.he knows that he is not ready,this is why he told me that he will quit competing for a year.he is not same RJ that beat the russian and also my three times world champion friend haydar.

about Olin,i believe that he semed so strong to me.when i saw his matches he became the number one guy to worry about but somehow he lost too.

about Ray,i always believd that he had a very strong hand.i didnt meant to disrespect him.i wrote that cobra n i wore eachother out.before the tournament him n i had the most presure on us.i have got beat by Cobra in two different tournaments before,and even when i walked unto the table i didnt believe that i could win.but i also realised that he wasnt so confident either.so we both were uncomfortable and started to have dog fight before the go.i thought that if i beat him i would also win the competetion.so it was like a final match.my arm was so pumped after the match.then soliwada beat olin,i beat roger,then i beat soliwada very quick,and roger beat olin.then vern beat roger and ray and made them out.in the final russian beat me because he was stronger(2.time im writing for the ppl who has problems with reading),and i got hurt my elbow that happens very often since my surgery everytime i pulled someone stronger.then i lost to soliwada.

there is no disrespectfulness in my words.certain ppl takes it this way because of personal reasons.

[Ryan Thames]

I didnt twist anything all i said was it sounded degrading and disrespectful to Ray. You may not have ment that way. I understand that BUT it did sound very disrespectful.

Ray is feeling excellent right now I know that for sure. You say Olin was the one to worry about well Olin and Ray have troubles at practice and no disrespect to Olin but from I see its usually Ray on top of things. So if you say Olin was the one to worry about that only tellsme how much better Ray shouldve done. BUT things happen and you win some you lose some.

Im not starting any trouble im just teling you the way i see things. You may agree or not. Im not taking anything away from You, Cobra, Ray, RJ or Olin. You guys are all excellent competitors. You all got wore out in this tournament, that happens otherwise you would never lose.

Engin said:
what you saw and what i saw might be different.cobra and i had a 10 seconds without strap match,and also had a long set up by maximum back pressures that took at least 20%of our strength away.and ray was already sent to the losers.so he pulled cobra in the losers bracket.the reason that cobra didnt wanna pull in 176s was because he didnt have enough endurance yet and he lost everything he had after pulling a few matches.then he pulled ray,then side ref gave match to ray while head ref called it strap.then leonard made the final desicion and they puled again.they slipped apart at the mid of table and they gave cobra the second foul.and this s how he lost.

This post says to me when i read it, correct me if im wrong. That the only reason Ray beat Cobra was because "he didnt have enough endurance yet and he lost everything he had after pulling a few matches"

The being made is both Ray and Cobra were both well spent (from what i hear) They were on equal grounds and Ray took the win pin or not Ray won it.

Again you may not have meant it that way. But thats the way it looked to me. And apparently to his wife Chrislyn and other friends such as Chris and myself.

P.S. its spelled Hennerichs

[Willie Reagan]

Engin, you don't have to explain yourself to anyone. They are just trying to start trouble with you. Don't even listen or respond to them. You are a very respected man, as well as an armwrestler. He will not put up $5,000.00 against you. Take care my friend.

[Gary Roberts]

Thanks Chris. I will have the next clip up in a few hours and it begins with Cobra and Engin.

Gary

[Chris Coletti]

Willie I don't have $5000

Engin,
I answered your IM please check it.

Leonard,
Any answer on a 138 next year? You are correct at that tourny there was no place to hide. All I was saying was that goes for every competitor.

I think Ray should get the respect he earned also just as should every guy who showed up!

[Chris Coletti]

Ryan,
Watch that show tonight it starts at 9 central. Also please don't post anything more on this subject unless it is praise for Dave or Gary
Thanks
Chris

[enginterzi]

Ryan,

what is with Cobra is different that our position.he hasnt been in armwrestling for many years.i have been competing for many years none stop,Ray has been competng for such a long time too.the competetion probably took more from him than the rest.if i say that we both were wore out,it means that i give him a lot of credit.because i won the match but he wore me out too.it probably sounded in the way that you say but it wasnt my purpose.

but what you all sound is that calling eachother and making an agrement how to make me look bad.is this all you that you guys could find to do what you do now?

if you feel ofended then you can express what offends you.but involving the names that had nothing to do with this subject is not the right thing to do.you dont need to try to involve others so they fel that they may join you too.

in no where i said Olin could beat Ray.i have no idea how they do to eachother.i just wrote that Olin looked good,and i was worried about my possible match with him.

[enginterzi]

Willie,thanks for being objective and not looking the subject by nationalistic eyes.that makes me feel comfortable in US.


Chris,thx for the pm and understanding.

[Ryan Thames]

Engin,
Check your pm's

[enginterzi]

its ok no needed to apoligy.take care.