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Post by Leonard Harkless on Aug 5, 2009 13:49:11 GMT -5
Busted at the Europeans.
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Post by Pete & Tim on Aug 5, 2009 13:56:16 GMT -5
Shocker!!!! LOL
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Post by Tomas Micka on Aug 5, 2009 14:41:20 GMT -5
Juicing? Not a surprise.. So who is the European champ now? I wonder what about the guy everybody are talking about these days.. The guy is so huge, strong, succesful.. And is he also clean? Who cares..
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Post by enginterzi on Aug 5, 2009 15:12:32 GMT -5
Tomas,every game has its own rules and as long as you play the each game according to its own rules it will be just fine until its proven to be otherwise.if everyone comes here and points who they think is juiced up then it will look so ugly and we will be reading tens of names here,not only the one that you just accused.so why you brought his name when the thread had nothing to do with him? because he just did something great now? or "YOU" think that he is the only one? if not he is the only one according to you then please share all of the names that are on your mind,that will be uglier but more fair.just because Semerenko tested positive at the EAC did it mean that he was the only one? or only one between the doping card pickers? many of the medalists didnt pick the card,i bet some of the negative tested pullers may have followed timing method.so why only he now? because he just did something great?
he will be at the Worlds as the others to pick the doping card to be tested,until WAF starts to do off season testing lets not accuse anyone front of the world.if we do,then lets do altogether by sharing every single name on our mind without remembering the universal rule "people are innocent until proven to be guilty".sure we all have mind to judge but without proving this doesnt seem right to publish it to the whole world.
no one is stupid but choosing just one,who just did something great,to stone is not a right thing to do esspecially when the thread has nothing to do with him.
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Post by enginterzi on Aug 5, 2009 15:15:52 GMT -5
even the athlete whose A sample tests positive,cant be announced until the B sample procudure is finished and athlete is found guilty.
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Post by Guy Lasorsa on Aug 5, 2009 15:18:44 GMT -5
No comment
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Post by Guy Lasorsa on Aug 5, 2009 15:21:03 GMT -5
Ok comment : Its nice they test at Europeans.
Ok now duck , its too bad we couldnt do the same here...Guaranteed some results wouldnt be the same
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Post by enginterzi on Aug 5, 2009 15:29:13 GMT -5
i agree Guy,
not only over there but everywhere..esspecially if the off season tests happen without any notice..its 36 days to my competetion date to WAF and in 10 days we will have our last doping test before WAF,i wonder how many countries will be doing the same as we do.yes its not that they dont wanna do it but because of the expenses but still i wish that every athlete who pulls at EAC or WAF would be tested in their countries as well.yes i have also complained about it in the past but again either accuse all you have in your mind or accuse none by pointing.
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Post by Leonard Harkless on Aug 5, 2009 15:29:32 GMT -5
even the athlete whose A sample tests positive,cant be announced until the B sample procudure is finished and athlete is found guilty. They declined to have the B sample tested. Ukraine will have a deduction in team points because of the positive test. |
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Post by enginterzi on Aug 5, 2009 15:31:44 GMT -5
thanks for the info Leonard! we took 3. place at in senior team placement after Russia and Ukraine and maybe after this detuction we will place 2. who knows ..
senior G S B P
1 RUSSIA 14 10 10 309
2 UKRAINE 12 6 5 220
3 TURKEY 4 5 7 159
total
1 RUSSIA 30 22 14 611
2 UKRAINE 14 10 13 348
3 TURKEY 10 12 13 321
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Post by Max Moore on Aug 5, 2009 15:50:23 GMT -5
anyone who has been around the gym or competitive sports knows the signs of juicing. if your face is bloated and you start lookin like a completely different person................etc.....
it makes no sense to point fingers and accuse others because it really doesn't matter what others do or don't do. all you can do is take care of your side of the street.
on a side note....i am surprised to see that the final tests are still nearly a month prior to competition! or did i misunderstand your post?
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Post by enginterzi on Aug 5, 2009 16:00:46 GMT -5
we have our last doping test 15-20 days before the departure to WAF or EAC AND then we are AGAIN subject to be tested also at where we compete (WAF or EAC) if we become medalist.
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Post by enginterzi on Aug 5, 2009 16:10:31 GMT -5
15-20 days before the departure means about 3 - 3,5 weeks before the competetion date(departure is on 05. of september but competetion is on 11. and 12. of september).we have to prepare official passports,airplane tickets etc according to the "results" of these testings.any time later than this will make our participation near impossible.
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Post by Ian "The Grippler" Carnegie on Aug 5, 2009 16:24:49 GMT -5
I feel like Semerenko's business should be his own. And since no one who ever existed except for Christ is perfect than we should not judge. He played in a league thats supposed to be clean and he wasn't well he'll have to pay the consequences. But he competes against many athletes and leagues who are not tested so their lies his mistake.. you can't play in both fields at the same time but my Goodness their are an awful lot of pros who don't go to waf because their tested! To me this is a personal issue. I feel for the man as he will now forever be labeled when we all know dam well that hes not the only one!!
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Post by Tomas Micka on Aug 5, 2009 16:43:45 GMT -5
Engin, I quite do not care what he did. I just saw the pictures and I really do not think these arms can be natural. Just my opinion. We all know what happened at weighin in a few years ago at EAF - I guess Alper mentioned it. Unfair, unclear.. I do not want to say, that all russians and ukrainians are unfair, juiced, of anything. I belive they are not. For example I like Matyushenko's point of view. But in this example, I do not believe in his cleanness.
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