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Post by Guy Lasorsa on Aug 6, 2009 12:01:04 GMT -5
I have never commented on this, but I have read these posts. I think random tested tourneys would help grow this sport. There are lots of people that don't pull anymore due to getting beat bad at a tourney by someone on roids. Once the users are weeded out this sport will GROW. exactly, or if there was a cheaper better way to seperate the Pro from the Nationals medals worlds type athlete. |
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Post by Derrick Mattera on Aug 6, 2009 12:04:59 GMT -5
Sooooo what is the point of TALKING about all of this?  Guy seeing as you have a passion about this, i think you should be the Sparticus for anti-doping in armwrestling. Get the IOC up in here!!! I am kind of kidding so i apologize, but i just all this talk isnt doing anything. I honestly could give a crap who does steroids. Everysport does it, just get over it. |
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Post by Justin Kopa on Aug 6, 2009 12:05:41 GMT -5
Well, now that we're on the subject once again...let me just say.... ARSEN IS A JUICIN MUTHA FU*KA!!!!! AND I DON 'T CARE IF I EVER MEET UP WITH HIM IN PERSON, BECAUSE HE'S A JUICIN MUTHA F*CKA!!!! Despite his genetic advantage he's going to end up like Artem Klimenko and I"m not going to spare one gasp when his medals are taken away. NOT ONE. I REPEAT....NO ONE....PUTS ON THAT MUSCLE MASS IN THAT AMOUNT OF TIME. NOT EVEN MR OLYMPIA....ANY OF THEM. I may not be GREAT or even GOOD at this sport on a PRO level, but I know Cheaters....I know them well...and your intellectual capacity can't deny the fact that you're a f*ckin Cheater when it's clear as DAY. MY 2cents. Sorry for all I offended....  How do you know cheaters? I think you would probably curl up in a fetal position if you were face to face with this man. If i was him and i read this and ACTUALLY saw you at a tournament i would punch you dead in your face and chokeslam your little ass. JMO though  |
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Post by Justin Kopa on Aug 6, 2009 12:07:05 GMT -5
NOT ONE. I REPEAT....NO ONE....PUTS ON THAT MUSCLE MASS IN THAT AMOUNT OF TIME. NOT EVEN MR OLYMPIA....ANY OF THEM. 85 kg to 92 kg. What a huge leap!!! Arsen was a teenager just a few years ago. He is coming of age and his maturing body is starting to catch up with the unbelievable training he puts it through day in and day out and mental toughness he always possessed. First meet the guy, shake his hand, look in his eyes and make your judgments. What a bunch of childish statements from a widely known in very narrow circles, no chance of making it big in this sport, destined for mediocrity, miserable excuse of a man. At least your avatar picture matches your sorority girl ranting. Did you choose this picture before of after you separated yourself from your cohones and manhood.  LOL...nice post Alex ;D |
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Post by Guy Lasorsa on Aug 6, 2009 12:12:30 GMT -5
The short time I have been in this sport I can say you are a little naive if you don't think many of the top pullers use substances that are banned in other sports. I am not saying its right or wrong and I have no clue what kind of advantage it gives. But after spending all my high school and college years in a gym it is clear that it is common in the sport. But if they don't test for it then no one should point fingers and you should just make the choice for your self and do the best you can either way. I cant see how steroids would make you a great puller. I would think you would need the tendon strength and the technique before just the raw horse power. Is this true? I am still a rookie! Yes on a natural longterm veteran tendon strength canmake the difference. On the short term muscle effect, can make ahuge difference and does all the time. I see it when in special group practices in individuals that can be guaged easily and in small tournaments vs. Big ones. Practice can go like this cant beat someone week 1 . 9 weeks later you play with that person , they need two arms to beat you. than 8 weeks later its back to having wars again and you probably cant beat them it may not be a test but its obvious There was a local CT guy like 8 years back that was not much more than a novice that James Retarides has spoke of named Jeff Jeramiah. i can mention him here because he is long gone. He couldnt beat anyone at practice, than showed up weeks later bigger and there you have it.. and yes he admitted it too |
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Post by Guy Lasorsa on Aug 6, 2009 12:17:40 GMT -5
Sooooo what is the point of TALKING about all of this? Guy seeing as you have a passion about this, i think you should be the Sparticus for anti-doping in armwrestling. Get the IOC up in here!!! I am kind of kidding so i apologize, but i just all this talk isnt doing anything. I honestly could give a crap who does steroids. Everysport does it, just get over it. NO... It obviously doesnt bother you because you havent reached a level to be effected yet and also perhaps because a few down your way already do it and its well known .... But actually YES ... Derrick I believe Im starting a Blog about this in all sports .. very soon thanks all stories are welcome, names can be changed to protect the Not so innocent |
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Post by Steven Green on Aug 6, 2009 12:25:35 GMT -5
Thanks for the info Guy. I love this sport but being healthy and living long is far more important to me.
The main thing that bothers me is always being sore. I only pull a few times a month and workout 4-5 days a week but I am ALWAYS sore. If I could take somthing to make me feel 100% everyday it would be tempting.
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Post by Guy Lasorsa on Aug 6, 2009 12:35:49 GMT -5
Thanks for the info Guy. I love this sport but being healthy and living long is far more important to me. The main thing that bothers me is always being sore. I only pull a few times a month and workout 4-5 days a week but I am ALWAYS sore. If I could take something to make me feel 100% everyday it would be tempting. yeah creatine and protein and maybe L-glutamine may help a little but you still wont be able to armwrestle twice a week than pound weights the next day or pull a big event day and night and train the next day.. Stay focused ! |
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Post by James Battles on Aug 6, 2009 12:36:30 GMT -5
Well, now that we're on the subject once again...let me just say.... ARSEN IS A JUICIN MUTHA FU*KA!!!!! AND I DON 'T CARE IF I EVER MEET UP WITH HIM IN PERSON, BECAUSE HE'S A JUICIN MUTHA F*CKA!!!! Despite his genetic advantage he's going to end up like Artem Klimenko and I"m not going to spare one gasp when his medals are taken away. NOT ONE. I REPEAT....NO ONE....PUTS ON THAT MUSCLE MASS IN THAT AMOUNT OF TIME. NOT EVEN MR OLYMPIA....ANY OF THEM. I may not be GREAT or even GOOD at this sport on a PRO level, but I know Cheaters....I know them well...and your intellectual capacity can't deny the fact that you're a f*ckin Cheater when it's clear as DAY. MY 2cents. Sorry for all I offended.... How do you know cheaters? I think you would probably curl up in a fetal position if you were face to face with this man. If i was him and i read this and ACTUALLY saw you at a tournament i would punch you dead in your face and chokeslam your little ass. JMO though lol not if he is armed |
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Post by Andrew Fournier on Aug 6, 2009 13:26:20 GMT -5
ok Germanus,Arsen and Cyplenkov are the ones.i get it. saying he is juiced would be a better way than implying in a sneaky way since both meant the same thing as no one is a stupid here.in your country (which i am sure has democracy) when someone accuse another person with some crime without any proof..does he get in any trouble with the law? Well well...maybe we should practice what we preach. Have you guys ever read a baseball message board??? The things said about Sammy Sosa and Mark McGwire....a lot more than "I THINK"...a lot more about athletes w/o positive results or proof. I guess the difference between our sport and baseball, aside from the sheer size...is that... We, the participants, are also the primary audience. Maybe I should've been more selective with my verbage, but after readings some of the responses...well, now I really don't care. Many of you know where this sport is going without stricter doping regulation. If I'm doomed to mediocrity, that's fine by me. |
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Post by enginterzi on Aug 6, 2009 15:46:56 GMT -5
But also don't forget that accusing, attacking, or just being disrespecting to the greats of our sport draw attention to the brave and cool dude who are being disrespecting. That's not a new phenomenon around here. And hey... it might even draw some attention to your new spectacular avatar that indirect might make people think you're an even cooler dude... i guess everyone has his-her own reasons to become a member here |
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Post by Alexander Pozdnyakov on Aug 6, 2009 16:59:41 GMT -5
85 kg to 92 kg. What a huge leap!!! Arsen was a teenager just a few years ago. He is coming of age and his maturing body is starting to catch up with the unbelievable training he puts it through day in and day out and mental toughness he always possessed. First meet the guy, shake his hand, look in his eyes and make your judgments. What a bunch of childish statements from a widely known in very narrow circles, no chance of making it big in this sport, destined for mediocrity, miserable excuse of a man. At least your avatar picture matches your sorority girl ranting. Did you choose this picture before of after you separated yourself from your cohones and manhood. Well, it appears I've opened up a can of corn...give me a second to modify my original post with two additional words: "I THINK". There, everyone happy? As for this whole widely known in very narrow circles (lol), seperation of my cohones and manhood, and being destined to mediocrity in the sport, THANKS!~ Maybe my Avatar will reach Legendary Status. For 'I THINK' you have chosen quite a filthy vocabulary to express your thoughts. What would your English teacher think after reading your original post? I train over 100 young girls and boys. They are inspired by all the greats of this sport. If Arsen lost to Travis, none of them would have contribute it to Travis being juiced. All the perks that elite russian pullers might be getting from their local governments and sponsors would disappear and never come back if one fails the test. For these athletes, this sport is their life. They do it full time. They cannot fall back on their banking, factory, teaching jobs. Their distinguished sports titles are given by the order of minister of sports in Moscow. They are truly famous, as world champion in skiing, wrestling, diving, chess or any other sport would be. Entire Turkish team would be banned if someone fails. This is why testing is being done in Turkey and Russia on national levels. Take a 154 lb russian girl Irina Makeeva. I would go on a limb and say that she would destroy 80% of male members of this board, of all ages, weight classes, and ego levels. Would anyone dare to call her a juicer? After all the national, european, world titles, and tests that come with them, she is still a stellar example for anyone to follow. I would be pissed if one of my students lost hir/her title to a juicer, but this is not the place and form to point fingers and make accusations based on 'I THINK' |
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Post by Alexander Pozdnyakov on Aug 6, 2009 17:14:44 GMT -5
85 kg to 92 kg. What a huge leap!!! Arsen was a teenager just a few years ago. He is coming of age and his maturing body is starting to catch up with the unbelievable training he puts it through day in and day out and mental toughness he always possessed. First meet the guy, shake his hand, look in his eyes and make your judgments. What a bunch of childish statements from a widely known in very narrow circles, no chance of making it big in this sport, destined for mediocrity, miserable excuse of a man. At least your avatar picture matches your sorority girl ranting. Did you choose this picture before of after you separated yourself from your cohones and manhood. i don't like what You wrote Mr Pozdnyakov. It is absoultely no nice at all. These are juiced (read: weak) %@$%%# & who don't have balls at all!. They enter the competition and want to boost their small ego beating some clean guys.. end of As a free thinking human being you have all the rights to like or dislike what I have to say. What are your credentials, or crystal ball that open your eyes at who is clean and who is not? |
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Post by Guy Lasorsa on Aug 6, 2009 17:25:56 GMT -5
Here is some of my thoughts on health ,athletes and helping young kids while cleaning up NA arm wrestling a little
1) Im going to start a Blog which will be about health and making the right choices on steroids and hopefully for teens will follow.
2) It will attract some sponsors with traffic , I will also try to raise money for a tested event . I started the process today at least.
3) i will open an online store eventually mostly health, maybe sports stuff, energy etc..maybe training modules and systems ,ebooks and maybe things if you click on a sponsor that will pay ... I think people and hopefully arm wrestlers will redirect there spending some
But for now if we work together a little we can do a lot
4) we will fund some testing at________________
5) I want to get personal articles and stories around the globe to process , that may help someone make the right choice
6) hopefully we can get cooperation with some promoters after all we can raise funds for some tournaments we should be able to make a small effort for at least one clean tournament to start
7) Devon Larratt contacted me today , and he wishes he could do something also but hasnt the time. he also said He would like to see testing somehow for the top 5 in NA
Yes it wont be a perfect system but would be a start
8) The business Blog i also hope to add personal development for self esteem , alternate choices, , get radio perhaps etc.. will maybe branch a little MLB into it which will bring more traffic
9) I hope you will join the blog and stay with it and help support by redirecting some spending on things you may already are doing or may need, and help in other ways too
Heck we may even get more to the sport of arm wrestling, when you link and do things together instead of separately you can accomplish a lot
PM suggestions are welcome from a-z , products, sources anything
or emails guy.lasorsa@comcast.net
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Post by robbyburnett on Aug 6, 2009 17:56:35 GMT -5
ill tell u this if a 154 pound girl could beat me id quit thats terrible and if she can beat 80% of this board well that 80% better get off the computer go get checked by there doctor to first make sure there not sick and then take there weak asses to the gym and thats jmo  |
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Guy seeing as you have a passion about this, i think you should be the Sparticus for anti-doping in armwrestling. Get the IOC up in here!!! I am kind of kidding so i apologize, but i just all this talk isnt doing anything. I honestly could give a crap who does steroids. Everysport does it, just get over it.
