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Post by Josh Handeland on Oct 13, 2009 23:00:45 GMT -5
Any questions or comments please post here, in the "Rankings - Help Please" thread, or send me a pm.
Right Hand:
1. Tony Kitowski
2. Bill Logsdon
3. Roger Nowatske
4. Andrew Quade
5. Billy Kruep
6. Quinton Geist
7. Tony Weikle
8. Bryan Koerner
9. Josh Handeland
10. Greg Allen
11. Josh Koenig
12. Brock Iola
13. Viet Nguyen
14. Zach Hayden
15. Justin Palmer
16. Jesse Weichert
17. Anthony Ursino
18. Chris Mowry
19. Michael Creason
20. Cody VanderWeerd
21. Ryan Wermer
22. Jon Gist
23. Mike Haehnlein
24. Adriano Melikardi
25. Derrick Bills
26. Lee Jobelius
Left Hand:
1. Tony Kitowski
2. Bill Logsdon
3. Tony Weikle
4. Josh Handeland
5. Billy Kruep
6. Seth Carlson
7. Calib Rought
8. Greg Allen
9. Oscar Anderson
10. Andrew Quade
11. Storm Stapleton
12. Mike Haehnlein
13. Jonathan Fecht
14. Josh Koenig
15. Tucker Slocum
16. Anthony Ursino
17. Zach Hayden
18. Quentin Salinas
19. Kevin Gass
20. Jesse Weichert
21. Tyler Betterman
22. Cody VanderWeerd
23. Derrick Bills
24. Adriano Melikardi
25. Michael Creason
26. Bruce Pickett
27. John Berlin
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Post by Josh Handeland on Apr 26, 2010 19:45:49 GMT -5
This class will be reformatted soon... looking at the right, Garratt, Shane, and Greg are heavy now, Mike Dawson inactive. Left, Eric, Shane, and Greg are heavy, Scott has been inactive as far as I know. I plan on having them off within the next month (unless they pull 176 before then).
I am willing to hear nominations for people who should be added to the rankings when those guys are removed... I do already have certain people in mind however... need to figure out which order I should put the guys I am thinking about adding though. I would like to hear some names thrown out though in case I am forgetting anybody.
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Post by Josh Dale on Apr 30, 2010 14:53:53 GMT -5
Shawn D. should be much higher. He's the 2009 165# Unified Nat. Champ and I'm pretty sure he beat Robertas the one year at Blaine's tourny, not sure what the total record is between the two or even the most recent.
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Post by Josh Handeland on Apr 30, 2010 21:10:49 GMT -5
I ranked Shawn at 8th originally since he lost to Ethan Fritsche at 2009 Illinois States; Garrett Richardson crushed Ethan and Robertas easily beat Garrett in the 187's. Now Robertas was a little heavier than 176 there and maybe I ranked Shawn too low; yes he did win nationals but you gotta look at who he beat, he beat some strong guys for sure but nobody even close to the top 4 on this list imho. IIRC Shawn did win pretty easily at nationals though.
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Post by Josh Dale on May 1, 2010 15:59:17 GMT -5
To repeat LOL: shawn has beat ro bertas before so if you're going to count a past loss you should count a past win too. Also; not sure about kyle and shawn at the tournies but in the practice I saw I can tell you shawn wins most of them and kyle beat ethan at toproll
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Post by Josh Handeland on May 1, 2010 18:56:54 GMT -5
You're right Josh but more recent victories mean more than past victories, but I will admit that when I made these rankings I was unaware than Shawn had win(s) on Robertas. I have since then watched it on Armtv more than once. You are actually the 3rd person who has brought this to my attention (the first person was Shawn at MO States, lol!). Kyle did beat Ethan but Ethan had his supermatch with Plaster before than and despite what Jeremy says about not having worn out Ethan in the least, any pulling wears you out some, some guys don't even warm up before tournaments because they want to save their energy. But Robertas is stronger than Ethan is, imho.
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Post by Josh Dale on May 1, 2010 19:19:00 GMT -5
It's all good man, I was just bored on my break at work more than anything, otherwise I try to stay out of any rankings discussions. Hope to see you at an upcoming tourny!
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Post by Josh Handeland on May 1, 2010 23:25:30 GMT -5
That's cool man I like the discussion, not sure when I will be down in Missouri again.
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Post by Josh Handeland on Oct 23, 2010 16:30:34 GMT -5
Ethan beat Kevin Harris today, he maintains the #1 spot.
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Post by Michael Creason on May 28, 2013 18:41:07 GMT -5
I believe that Yosef beat Ethan leftie in MO May 18th. Might be wrong on this one. Ethan was weighing light I believe.
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Post by Josh Handeland on May 28, 2013 21:11:37 GMT -5
He beat him once but Ethan came back and beat him twice in the finals. I'd move Yosef up to one below Ethan for beating him once but Tony beat him twice last yr and paul won unifieds where yosef didnt place, and I am positive Yosef doesn't want to be ranked above them till he beats them.
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Post by Alan Berget on May 29, 2013 5:41:04 GMT -5
And you do?
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Post by Josh Handeland on May 29, 2013 12:48:41 GMT -5
What don't I have a clue about this time Rob, please enlighten me.
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Post by Tony Kitowski on May 29, 2013 19:41:35 GMT -5
You're doing a fine job josh. It's a hard job to do. It requires many hours of watching video after video. And it is still impossable to see them all. I myself am looking forward to pulling all the boys listed above me. Where they should be since I have not beaten or pulled them in the last couple years. Rob, you're a bully picking on us little guys lol. Can't wait to grab those big bear claws of yours again.
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Post by Paul Vertalka on Nov 4, 2013 0:14:45 GMT -5
I should be having a super match L & R with Paul Talbott in March in Ohio. We'll see how that goes
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