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Post by C J Whitfield on Jul 10, 2011 20:10:33 GMT -5
Just kinda seemed like you sided with ray there but the same situaution has happened with you also?
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Post by David Owens on Jul 10, 2011 20:25:21 GMT -5
Just kinda seemed like you sided with ray there but the same situaution has happened with you also? lol much to learn you still have my young padowan I sided with Ray against my own teammate? I mearly stated what I think to be true as far as rankings are concerned, Ray has bean around and has wins over very seasoned pullers, if I am looking from an unbiased standpoint then yes I have to side with Ray because you were both fresh the first time you pulled and this was not the case the second time. Would it have mattered? I dont know I can only guess but then that would be my opinion and not an opinion based on facts. In the case with Mike it is not the same at all 1 he is not in my class 2 we were pulling a weight class not commonly used or ranked 3 Mike did cut weight to make this class and did say he was sick on this particular day when I talked to him later in KY 4 We pulled early in the tournament before he had to pull 30 times 5 if the match ever stopped it would have been different, I went in with a game plan and it worked on that day, if Mike had beat me and then I came back and beat him then it definatly would have taken something away from the win I'm on your side CJ and I think you would take the spot back today but when doing rankings I have to set myself apart from that and try to be objective and in this case that is what i have done |
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Post by C J Whitfield on Jul 10, 2011 20:42:39 GMT -5
Not asking you to be on my side just because your my "teammate". Just didn't understand the difference between my situation and yours. You seem to feel like your win was a legit win but then say mike had the flu blah blah blah... but enough with that. How do you decide which class to place ray in since the class was 165lb?? 154lb or 176lb?
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Post by C J Whitfield on Jul 10, 2011 20:50:53 GMT -5
And tri-state isn't even listed as a sec tourney? Was it over looked or is it because you can't place the people that pulled the odd weight classes(165lb,187lb, etc.) in the normal ones(154,176,198, etc.)?
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Post by David Owens on Jul 10, 2011 20:51:22 GMT -5
Not asking you to be on my side just because your my "teammate". Just didn't understand the difference between my situation and yours. You seem to feel like your win was a legit win but then say mike had the flu blah blah blah... but enough with that. How do you decide which class to place ray in since the class was 165lb?? 154lb or 176lb? I didnt say Mike had the flu he said that. we rank 154,176,198,220,242,243 plus I think 165 falls in the 155-176  and Ray has not made 154 in a couple of years |
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Post by David Owens on Jul 10, 2011 21:02:24 GMT -5
Not asking you to be on my side just because your my "teammate". Just didn't understand the difference between my situation and yours. You seem to feel like your win was a legit win but then say mike had the flu blah blah blah... but enough with that. How do you decide which class to place ray in since the class was 165lb?? 154lb or 176lb? also I am not saying your win isnt legit, there are millions of excuses people use when they lose.....the win is as legit as you think it is, the other guy is always gonna have an excuse for why he didnt win. can one win be more legit than another? yes I believe it can. for instance beating A healthy Mike West at 198lbs would be more legit than a sucked down Mike West at 187lbs, legitimacy of a win can always be argued but the win itself cannot, so if everybody else thinks your win and rays win cancel each others out that is fine by me, the best thing to do is just not lose and there is no question!!! |
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Post by C J Whitfield on Jul 10, 2011 21:06:05 GMT -5
So 165lb is a commonly used and ranked class??? Number 2 on your list confuses me here?
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Post by David Owens on Jul 10, 2011 21:10:06 GMT -5
So 165lb is a commonly used and ranked class??? Number 2 on your list confuses me here? no it is not but it does fall between 155-176, if Ray was ranked at 154 this would be a non issue but he is not Is your issue that you had to cut weight and believe Ray didnt or that you feel any odd weight classes should have no effect on rankings? |
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Post by C J Whitfield on Jul 10, 2011 21:17:31 GMT -5
Just don't worry about it. We aren't seeing eye to eye and I'm not really worried about being ranked 18th. I'll just beat you soon and take your spot  |
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Post by David Owens on Jul 10, 2011 21:24:05 GMT -5
Just don't worry about it. We aren't seeing eye to eye and I'm not really worried about being ranked 18th. I'll just beat you soon and take your spot Good luck with that and the rest of your hopes and dreams  |
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Post by C J Whitfield on Jul 10, 2011 21:33:26 GMT -5
I'm on a fast track davey... Don't try to leave tomorrow.
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Post by David Owens on Jul 10, 2011 21:38:40 GMT -5
I'm on a fast track davey... Don't try to leave tomorrow. Practice is Sunday I will be happy to hold you in the center of the table while you get a workout ;D, you are on a fast track and I can't imagine how strong you will be when your all grown up  |
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Post by C J Whitfield on Jul 10, 2011 21:45:31 GMT -5
Or how strong I could be at 195lb?  Cough cough  |
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Post by David Owens on Jul 10, 2011 22:28:32 GMT -5
Or how strong I could be at 195lb? Cough cough Hey easy with the fat jokes and your a full 10 pounds off |
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Post by Michael Ignatz on Jul 11, 2011 1:19:46 GMT -5
Lmbo! That's great guys!!!
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and Ray has not made 154 in a couple of years
Cough cough 
