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Post by Gene Spiker on Jul 5, 2011 20:53:09 GMT -5
NICE!!!!!!!I DO A LOT OF HOG HUNTING!!!!!!!!!LOVE IT.....I HAVE NEVER BEEN BEAR HUNTING WOULD LOVE TO GOING ONEDAY.. 400LBS IS THE BIGGEST I HAVE LEGED......I TOO USE DOGS...TRAIL DOG IS A CURR...CATCH DOG IS A PIT...I HAVE HAD A LOT OF GOOD DOGS KILLED... SPIKER... There pretty rough on a dog, I had about a 250pder in a 100 by 100 pin for training dogs that is responsible for about 200 staples. But I never really hunted them for that reason. Good sh*t though. YES..YES IT IS.....ITS ALWAYS HARD TOO LOSE A GOOD DOG...BUT ITS NICE TOO EAR YOUR BAYDOG SOUND OFF....AND WATCH YOUR CATCH DOG HAMMER THAT ASS...LOVE IT... SPIKER...
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Post by Christina Casto on Jul 5, 2011 21:09:10 GMT -5
you guys are talking about hunting. We have been coonhunters all our married lives, my dad thought Doug was lying when he asked to take me hunting one night, and we have bred and raised Walker coonhounds for most of that time. We are now nursing our oldest gype which is 14yrs old. I could only imagine what hogs do to a dog, coons tear them up alot of the time. I myself have sewed together many a dog after a long hard hunt.
we also have a wonderful squirrel dog, mountian curr. I love to go hunting with her. our best is a walker out of our gype and a dog that was in TN. RAT ATTACK now that was an awesome dog. one year we had pups with our gype bred to a dog in NC and we delievered a pup to the sires owner on the way to one of the AAA nationals in SC.
yes I not only Armwrestle but I love to HUNT.
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Post by Christina Casto on Jul 5, 2011 21:10:45 GMT -5
ok ok ok just leave him the hell off the stupid list. He could care less anyway I was just saying he deserves to be on one list or another. 220 or 242 Stump yes he did lose to Jim on friday in the masters class, but then in the open class with more and younger pullers it still came down to the two of them and he beat Jim both times. Doug does pull in this region. He pulls every tournament I have here in wv. Doug beat Jim Battles in both masters and open. David in one of you earlier posts you said "if there is only three in your class you cant win a national title" ?? what is that suppose to me not sure. If he beat James then that's a good start to rank?... Would a spot ahead of James be good enough? TK yes good enough. FOR NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Tommy Russell on Jul 5, 2011 21:33:41 GMT -5
I don't go around callin myself "bear hunter" . But I am a bear hunter, naw for real, I track bears down and kill then mf'ers. Are you really a fkn Scorpion? Tommy "the Scorpion Hunter" Russell Haha, I like it! How bout (the Scorpion Collector)
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Post by David Owens on Jul 5, 2011 21:40:51 GMT -5
[quote author=christinacasto board=southeast thread=20780 post=314050 time=1309915908 David in one of you earlier posts you said "if there is only three in your class you cant win a national title" ?? what is that suppose to me not sure. [/quote] No please reread, I said ....until there is one, and you cant(meaning until you are unable to) win a national title with three in your class then nationals titles are basically pointless, there are many tournaments all year with classes 10plus deep so a nationals with three is lackluster.......having said that its not the persons fault who shows up and wins its our fault as an armwrestling community for allowing this travesty to continue, for not standing up and saying hey we (the armwrestlers) are not going to recognize three separate nationals so get your crap togather(promoters) and make it right There is no doubt in my mind doug is as bad as they say he is and he probably should have been ranked from the start ,I ment no disrespect towards him but we have a formula that only requires you beat someone to get their spot and this is shot if we go by what we think and put him in above people who have been pulling to earn their spot, the only way I can see doing this is to do a complete overhaul of the rankings like we did in the beginning and revote everyones top 10 or 20 whatever ,otherwise the rankings are where they are and 1 match is separating anyone from the number 1 spot, in most cases the number 1 guys would probably be happy to meet for a supermatch...........but if the people doing the voting want to revote now that we have more people on the committee I'm all for it, I'm curious to see how it would turn out
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Post by David Owens on Jul 5, 2011 21:44:22 GMT -5
Tommy "the Scorpion Hunter" Russell Haha, I like it! How bout (the Scorpion Collector) Everybody needs a dream, glad I can be part of yours
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Post by Tommy Russell on Jul 5, 2011 22:08:56 GMT -5
Scorpion, if you ever beat me at anything I would kill myself. The end
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Post by David Owens on Jul 5, 2011 22:30:07 GMT -5
Scorpion, if you ever beat me at anything I would kill myself. The end that one really hurt
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Post by Christina Casto on Jul 5, 2011 23:02:55 GMT -5
DAVID I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT DON'T AGREE ABOUT ONLY PULLING THREE IN A CLASS AT NATIONALS. BUT THAT IS ONLY YOUR OPINION. AND THAT IS YOUR RIGHT. I'M JUST NOT SURE WHAT CLASS OR WHOM YOU ARE REFERING TO. IF IT WAS DOUGS WIN AT THIS YEARS NATIONALS THEN IT IS NOT TRUE. THERE WERE 6 OR MORE IN THE MASTERS AND 9 IN THE OPEN IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. WHEN HE WON NATIONALS AGAINST WATHERS IT WAS JUST THE TWO, BUT LIKE YOU SAID THAT IS NOT THEIR FAULT. ALSO IF YOU READ MY POST ALL I SAID WAS THAT HE NEEDED TO BE IN HERE SOMEWERE. HE BEAT JIM BATTLES IN BOTH THE MASTERS AND OPEN. THERE YOU GO. I WAS JUST WAITING FOR SOMEONE ELSE ON HERE TO NOTICE THAT AND PUT HIM WHERE HE IS DUE. I AM HIS WIFE I WAS JUST TRYING TO THROW IS NAME IN WITHOUT IT TURNING INTO A PISSING CONTEST, BUT NO ONE ELSE ON HERE HAD THERE EYES OPEN ENOUGH TO SEE WHO ELSE HE HAD BEATEN AT NATIONALS. NO HARM NO FOUL. I WAS TRYING TO GIVE EVERYBODY A DUE. WE ARE FROM WV AND NOT MUCH GOES ON UP THIS WAY, UNLESS I HOLD A TOUREY. MOST OF THE TIME HE DOESN'T PULL OUR TOURNEYS.
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Post by David Owens on Jul 5, 2011 23:26:59 GMT -5
DAVID I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT DON'T AGREE ABOUT ONLY PULLING THREE IN A CLASS AT NATIONALS. BUT THAT IS ONLY YOUR OPINION. AND THAT IS YOUR RIGHT. I'M JUST NOT SURE WHAT CLASS OR WHOM YOU ARE REFERING TO. IF IT WAS DOUGS WIN AT THIS YEARS NATIONALS THEN IT IS NOT TRUE. THERE WERE 6 OR MORE IN THE MASTERS AND 9 IN THE OPEN IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. WHEN HE WON NATIONALS AGAINST WATHERS IT WAS JUST THE TWO, BUT LIKE YOU SAID THAT IS NOT THEIR FAULT. ALSO IF YOU READ MY POST ALL I SAID WAS THAT HE NEEDED TO BE IN HERE SOMEWERE. HE BEAT JIM BATTLES IN BOTH THE MASTERS AND OPEN. THERE YOU GO. I WAS JUST WAITING FOR SOMEONE ELSE ON HERE TO NOTICE THAT AND PUT HIM WHERE HE IS DUE. I AM HIS WIFE I WAS JUST TRYING TO THROW IS NAME IN WITHOUT IT TURNING INTO A PISSING CONTEST, BUT NO ONE ELSE ON HERE HAD THERE EYES OPEN ENOUGH TO SEE WHO ELSE HE HAD BEATEN AT NATIONALS. NO HARM NO FOUL. I WAS TRYING TO GIVE EVERYBODY A DUE. WE ARE FROM WV AND NOT MUCH GOES ON UP THIS WAY, UNLESS I HOLD A TOUREY. MOST OF THE TIME HE DOESN'T PULL OUR TOURNEYS. first I wasnt being specific about anyone who won with three in their class, just saying it was possible to do so second you dont agree that a tournament with national implications should be more than 3 pullers, a nationals should be made up of 50 states best pullers, I understand people cant all make it but if there was only one road to a national title I garandamntee that the fields would be 15 to 20 deep in every case, there is only one road to worlds and it has over 400 entries every year so imagine if people couldnt pick up a national title any other way, I think last year unifieds had close to 600 entries, there is no reason we cant have 1 nationals with 800 entries every year. but nobody cares, people are content with winning any national title they can get their hands on to be able to say I am a national champion. again its not the pullers fault its all of our responsibility to say hey where is the legitimacy in having 3 nationals, and the answer is there is none, so the title means very little its the person you beat to get the title that matters. Further more that is not to say the same people would not have come away with a title had there been more entrees (in many cases I believe this to be very true) but we are failing to give our national titles legitimacy because we are allowing it to continue
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Post by TK on Jul 6, 2011 4:45:48 GMT -5
Scorpion, if you ever beat me at anything I would kill myself. The end Lmao.... Sorry David That one was funny. Can't wait to see this matchup! With so much on the line..... TK
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Post by TK on Jul 6, 2011 4:48:38 GMT -5
DAVID I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT DON'T AGREE ABOUT ONLY PULLING THREE IN A CLASS AT NATIONALS. BUT THAT IS ONLY YOUR OPINION. AND THAT IS YOUR RIGHT. I'M JUST NOT SURE WHAT CLASS OR WHOM YOU ARE REFERING TO. IF IT WAS DOUGS WIN AT THIS YEARS NATIONALS THEN IT IS NOT TRUE. THERE WERE 6 OR MORE IN THE MASTERS AND 9 IN THE OPEN IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. WHEN HE WON NATIONALS AGAINST WATHERS IT WAS JUST THE TWO, BUT LIKE YOU SAID THAT IS NOT THEIR FAULT. ALSO IF YOU READ MY POST ALL I SAID WAS THAT HE NEEDED TO BE IN HERE SOMEWERE. HE BEAT JIM BATTLES IN BOTH THE MASTERS AND OPEN. THERE YOU GO. I WAS JUST WAITING FOR SOMEONE ELSE ON HERE TO NOTICE THAT AND PUT HIM WHERE HE IS DUE. I AM HIS WIFE I WAS JUST TRYING TO THROW IS NAME IN WITHOUT IT TURNING INTO A PISSING CONTEST, BUT NO ONE ELSE ON HERE HAD THERE EYES OPEN ENOUGH TO SEE WHO ELSE HE HAD BEATEN AT NATIONALS. NO HARM NO FOUL. I WAS TRYING TO GIVE EVERYBODY A DUE. WE ARE FROM WV AND NOT MUCH GOES ON UP THIS WAY, UNLESS I HOLD A TOUREY. MOST OF THE TIME HE DOESN'T PULL OUR TOURNEYS. I had only heard Jim Bryan so far, so hearing he beat James Battles opens the door.....we'll put him in there. Thanks, TK
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Post by Christina Casto on Jul 6, 2011 9:53:37 GMT -5
Todd as Administrators to the rankings it is our job to look into wo beats who not go by what we hear. Alot of what has been said on here in the last few threads of who has beaten who or who has wrestled who is not right. So it is our job to look into who wrestled who, and who beat who. when I did the womens classes that is what took me so long. I emailed the people who held certain tournaments if I had a question and I looked at all the results before I put up the rankings that I thought was right. I only had one complaint and I explained that and It was fixed.
David I am not disagreeing with you . I for won go to nationals to end up being the only one in my class and having to pull up in the unlimited class. I have done this in several nationals. this year there were only 5 women total in the whole nationals. not our fault. times are hard and not everyone can travel. and i agree we should have one nationals, but there are those that don't want it.
We will be at Alabama so I guess everyone can stop saying we don't pull in the SEC, especially when our own tournaments are in the SEC.
Again I was not trying to put my husband at the top. I have not seen any of these guys besides stump pull, and that was years ago, and am not taking anything from them. All I was saying is if we are going to do this lets do it right.
I don't want any hard feelings just want good rankings the way they should be. BY THE RULES WE ARE SETTING.
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Post by 'Stump' Burton on Jul 6, 2011 10:58:01 GMT -5
A lot of us are going to be in Mobile Alabama. It sounds to me that a lot of this will get settled there. Again, I am a fan of great pulling.
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Post by David Owens on Jul 6, 2011 10:59:06 GMT -5
David I am not disagreeing with you . I for won go to nationals to end up being the only one in my class and having to pull up in the unlimited class. I have done this in several nationals. this year there were only 5 women total in the whole nationals. not our fault. times are hard and not everyone can travel. and i agree we should have one nationals, but there are those that don't want it. We will be at Alabama so I guess everyone can stop saying we don't pull in the SEC, especially when our own tournaments are in the SEC. . yes I completely agree there are those who don't want it, and we should be steadily asking WHY they don't want it! I have been rep'n Andrew since day 1 of this little project so please know that I have not said you don't pull in the SE, but I am in full admittence to not knowing anything about doug, this is why we need a committee, so someone can say hey you are forgetting about this person or that person. In all honesty it is very difficult to sit through hours of footage trying to sort out who is and is not SE,I know because I did it for a week solid to make my original list and yes if I didnt know much about them or couldnt find them on arm tv they got no love, we need each other to bring up the names so we can then go research them ourselves. Having said that everything is NOT on arm tv and we sometimes have to take each others word but I would assume we are all grown up enough to go on the honer system in those cases
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