199+ Draws Mohegan

[leonard]

Mens Right 199+
Ron Bath
BYE

Tom Nelson
Eric Woefel

Travis Bagent
Matt Girdner

BYE
Michael Todd

Mens Left 199+
Matt Girdner
BYE

Tom Nelson
Travis Bagent

Eric Woefel
Michael Todd

BYE
Ron Bath

[gambit]

The Bye Guys Gods are in their favor today.

[Pete & Tim]

What's with all the freaking bye's? Why can't we just have three matches in a row? What the hell is going on with everyone?

[John Burgeson]

pete,

In a six person event, there has to be two byes in the first round. Otherwise it wont work out..

[Pete & Tim]

johnburgeson said:

pete,

In a six person event, there has to be two byes in the first round. Otherwise it wont work out..

In a six man tournament, there should be no byes in the first round. The bye's should be one on the A side in the second round and one on the B side in the second round. That is usually how I have seen brackets done but lately it has not been done this way. Just curious as to why that's all.

See you tomorrow.

[leonard]

If you have seen 6 man brackets with no byes in the first round then they are inferior brackets!!!!
With that bracket you or someone else gets byed into a guaranteed 3rd place, bad idea.

[Pete & Tim]

The only guarantee in life Leonard, is that one day we will die. You have to pull to place, no matter how the brackets are done.

[jamesretarides]

I agree Pete. All the byes are start to make me a little sick too. Either that or the liquor at Gary's wedding. Anyhow, invite 8 or something but get rid of the friggin byes already.

[Mark Zalepa]

Leonard,

I would not say that draw sheets done with no bye's in the first round are inferior, just done differently. I have debated with you for many years over this very topic. I have used both brackets and draw sheets and both do the job, but I do not like personally having all the bye's in the first round. Just my opinion.

[Mark Zalepa]

Sorry, I should have read all the posts More thoroughly. Leonard, You said that with draw sheets some one gets a bye into third place. With either way someone will make it to the final four with only one victory. What difference does it make if the bye is in the first or second round. In fact, you are going to get 2 bye's in the whole class either way to get to the final four. I will never agree that your brackets are better, just different.

[leonard]

Mark the following:
United States High School Athletic Association, NCAA, FILA, United States Tennis Association, AAA, USAA, EAF,National Dart Association, Amateur Athletic Union(AAU), United States Amateur Wrestling(USAW), AZ Billiards, College Intramural Sports,BracketMaker.com,All Pro Software, Navy Sports, ASA(American Softball Association),Little League Baseball and Softball Association,The Association of College Unions International,Professional Billiards Association,The NFL,The Western Athletic Conference.
ALL SAY THAT YOU ARE WRONG!!!
Not one of the above uses bracket like you do Mark. Every one of the above gives all A side byes in the first round. So don't talk to me about how the draw sheets you use is so great. If you want to continue to use inferior bracket then so be it but look at who is using the brackets with byes in the first round and you tell me who else is using yours.

[Trenton Meyer]

Hey Leonard,

What's the matter, can't SLEEP!!!

I noticed you posted your last message @2:50 a.m. Anyway your right!!! there's alot more orginizations than what you listed, that use the same kinda brackets you use!!
I don't think anyone would '' bitch, '' if they were the one to draw the bye, Espically if they were the one wrestling against those kind of wrestlers.

"BYE" the way, the picture of you on your post, where was it taken? It looks like the background,when you did the David Letterman show..

I'm still down here in southern Wyoming working on the rigs, should be home Wednesday afternoon somtime, say "HI" to all!

T.

[Mark Zalepa]

I never said that it was better. I never said they were great. I just said different. I said they both worked. I can state an opinion on this because I have used both. I have no problem using both.
The NFL has four downs, the CFL three. One is not better, just different. In billiards you have Nine ball and snooker. The snooker player isn't wrong because he has more balls on the table. NASCAR does not say that INDY is wrong because they use different cars.
If you think that the only way in the world to do brackets is to do them your way then great for you. If you think that all other ways are inferior, awesome. You go Leonard. Spread the word. All I was saying was they were different, both ways one person was going to make it to the final four with one victory.

[leonard]

Yep you have used both and so have I. So I am just as qualified as you to say how sad they are. You say that they both do the job and yes the tournament does get done either way but the Devil is in the details and no organization does it your way for a reason. Look at your 18 bracket bye at 9, bye at 5 bye at 3 and again into the top 3 with a bye. How about your 34 bye at 17 bye at 9 bye at 5 bye at 3 and again into the top 3 with a bye. Come up with just one other organization other than yours that uses this inferior system and I will give you some respect. Until then I’ll be comfortable with the organizations brackets that I am emulating.

[Chris Gangi]

I think we have fallen from the subject.......

it is supposed to be about the pullers not the brackets we are using....