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Post by Johnny Edwards on May 10, 2011 12:36:52 GMT -5
Lets change over to JFK, I think that one has some good backing, how about JFK was going to abolish the federal reserve and give Congress the power back to print money eliminating debt building every time we print our money and back some of the money with silver instead of just gold, now how about there were some men fighting to keep the federal reserve from ever being established and they just so happened to be on the Titanic when it sank and then in 1913 the federal reserve was established hence the start of our fall. The presidents are just puppets that can't "REALLY" do anything to truly fix this country because there are too many different agendas.
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Post by Chris Kaufman on May 10, 2011 12:44:50 GMT -5
The movie and book I posted have the FACTS regarding the information and memos the President and his administration received prior to and during 9/11. That the funny thing is that this information is out there and was reported, but conveniently reported as to not draw mainstream attention.
My point in regards to them OBVIOUSLY covering up something, is why do they need to if they have nothing to hide? Like I said before, it creates reasonable doubt. If the media had been doing their job during this time, the majority of this stuff would have been exposed and we wouldn't be having this discussion.
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Post by Chris Kaufman on May 10, 2011 12:47:46 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Kaufman on May 10, 2011 13:23:30 GMT -5
They were obviously lying about something...why?
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Post by Johnny Edwards on May 10, 2011 13:26:13 GMT -5
Now as I say where is all the documents and how do I know they are real documents being shown??? Same as the Conspiracy theorist I wanna know for a fact what im looking at is valid.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on May 10, 2011 13:26:41 GMT -5
Most stuff in those videos is speculations by word of mouth. I wanna see factual documents.
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Post by Chris Kaufman on May 10, 2011 13:29:56 GMT -5
The declassified PDBs aren't real enough for you?
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Post by Johnny Edwards on May 10, 2011 13:30:24 GMT -5
"suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for
hijackings or other types of aNacks, including recent surveillance of
federal buildings in New York"
I can see how they had at least a hint of something happening, but where is the proof they orchestrated that??? I give up conspiracy theorist get cold hard physics facts and speculate yet talk about speculation as if it's fact, as long as it supports their idea. Truth is nobody knows if the government had this done or not. My question Chris is WHO is the government???
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Post by Johnny Edwards on May 10, 2011 13:32:43 GMT -5
Those documents are valid yes but they do not prove what your saying. That opinion is based off of speculation. The documents don't say that they know for a fact that they knew that was going to happen it says there is some hearsay going on. Thats not valid to for a fact prove what your trying to get at.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on May 10, 2011 13:33:42 GMT -5
It said there were investigations going on to find out what is going on, which means "they don't know" why conduct and investigation if you know?? So that throws out the window that they already know, the documents don't say that.
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Post by Chris Kaufman on May 10, 2011 13:35:10 GMT -5
"suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of aNacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York" I can see how they had at least a hint of something happening, but where is the proof they orchestrated that??? I give up conspiracy theorist get cold hard physics facts and speculate yet talk about speculation as if it's fact, as long as it supports their idea. Truth is nobody knows if the government had this done or not. My question Chris is WHO is the government??? They didn't have a hint, they had multiple warnings and took protective action for themselves and didn't inform the public. Let's forget "physics" issue of 9/11 and just focus on what happened before and after and tell me if you don't think there was something shady. The 9/11 commission and "invenstigation"? Not shady? |
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Post by Johnny Edwards on May 10, 2011 13:35:39 GMT -5
U.S. intelligence officials warned President Bush weeks before the Sept. 11 attacks that Osama bin Laden's terrorist network might hijack American planes, but White House officials stressed the threat was not specific.
A White House official acknowledged to ABCNEWS that the information prompted administration officials to issue a private warning to transportation department and national security agencies weeks before the attacks. But, the official said the threat of a hijacking by bin Laden's al Qaeda organization was general in nature, did not mention a specific time or place and was similar to the variety of different terrorist threats U.S. intelligence monitors frequently.
^even the news article does not say action was not taken just that you can't pin point a GENERAL threat...... Im not saying "they" didn't have something to do with it but this stuff is not proving that point.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on May 10, 2011 13:39:11 GMT -5
As we were saying on the other thread you can't just grab people up for no reason, because of laws and international laws. So something is not always a conspiracy because it happens. I mean unless you have hard facts there is really nothing you can do to someone especially when your a politician and if you make the wrong move and everyone labels you and idiot. Im sure all of us could do such a better job than the presidents do. I have respect for the men they don't exactly have and easy job when no matter what you do you are going to get scrutinized and blamed for things.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on May 10, 2011 13:41:06 GMT -5
Same thing happened with Pearl Harbor we had a warning but sometimes even when the warning is beforehand it's too late to set up action because you don't have time to realize for a fact if the information is true or not.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on May 10, 2011 13:42:26 GMT -5
And we do have laws in place now that screen people that could be potential terrorist, no laws in place before sept 11th............. So couldn't just snatch someone up and hold them for no reason.
"that the information prompted administration officials to issue a private warning to transportation department and national security agencies weeks before the attacks"
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