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Post by Anthony Edens on Aug 16, 2011 11:03:08 GMT -5
My opinion for what it's worth (not much): Armwrestling in it's truest/purest form is a one match format. When people approach someone in a bar and challenge them to an armwrestling match, they don't say "let's pull a best of 6". About the only reason it should even be more than a best of one is to minimize any unfair advantage that can slip by a referee. (elbow foul, false start, carving wrist, intentional slip) Best of 3 is equivalent to a tournament with only 2 entrants. Best of 6 is purely for entertainment/television purposes, I don't think we need to dilute the rankings by adding an extra set of rankings for supermatch only pullers.
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Post by P R O T O T Y P E - A.K on Aug 29, 2011 19:37:43 GMT -5
I am not sure why you make from a little misunderstanding such a problem...just ask before judging is something you better should do!. I will try to answer to all your disrespect expert-conclusions and incorrect assumings ;D later (but i will separate it from this thread cause it has nothing to do with what i meant originally and really is off-topic if you want to realize it) (you can give it an another try how i meant that so far in my second post). www.northeastboard.com/index.cgi?board=offtopic&action=display&thread=22911
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Post by Don Underwood on Aug 30, 2011 0:09:12 GMT -5
When do I get this shot. Good God ... please call me.
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Post by enginterzi on Aug 30, 2011 4:21:16 GMT -5
My opinion for what it's worth (not much): Armwrestling in it's truest/purest form is a one match format. When people approach someone in a bar and challenge them to an armwrestling match, they don't say "let's pull a best of 6". About the only reason it should even be more than a best of one is to minimize any unfair advantage that can slip by a referee. (elbow foul, false start, carving wrist, intentional slip) Best of 3 is equivalent to a tournament with only 2 entrants. Best of 6 is purely for entertainment/television purposes, I don't think we need to dilute the rankings by adding an extra set of rankings for supermatch only pullers. i agree with you but people on the street dont run marathon either.for over 20 years for some reason we naturally set best out of 3 at our trainings to determine the better puller if there is any challenge. i decided to do my rankings with Fabio Nimis who is a smart & knowledgable armwrestler.he does not think that it is a good idea either to start a supermatch ranking but i think only 1 unlimited weight category supermatch ranking maybe a good idea.
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Post by enginterzi on Aug 30, 2011 4:23:06 GMT -5
When do I get this shot. Good God ... please call me. people do not realise how much attention you can bring to an event that you pull,not to mention that you are one of the top pullers Don! PAL should invite you to Nemiroff !
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Post by Marinos Pylarinos on Aug 30, 2011 12:29:18 GMT -5
Just a little question to stir things up. Devon is ranked #1 because he beat John in a supermatch(and it's agreed upon that John was injured). Jerry beat John at UAL, was John healthy, or at least healthier, there than his was in England? Jerry also won against rich lupkes at the next UAL and went on to win the overall AFTER his supermatch. If he's done the same things Devon has done in supermatches, and then some in tourneys, why is Devon ranked above him? Shouldn't they at least be even?
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Post by enginterzi on Aug 30, 2011 12:53:00 GMT -5
because Devon did all those before Jerry did.Devon beat John when John was no1 and he took John's no1 place.John was not no1 when Jerry beat John.so now Jerry needs to beat no1 to be ranked no1.
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Post by Scott Wright on Aug 30, 2011 13:20:09 GMT -5
Devon also beat Rich without any issues 6-0 and Jerry lost one to Rich. So I think Devon should still be #1. I'm sure they will meet in the near future.
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Post by Marinos Pylarinos on Aug 30, 2011 14:49:16 GMT -5
I guess my main question of concern in there was really, do you think John was healthier when jerry beat him than he was for Devon in England? And Scott, I understand what you mean, but as everyone says, armwrestling is a battle of styles. So in what fashion someone beats another I don't think has much bearing on how they stack up to a guy with a more lopsided win over the same opponent, unless they won using the same technique. I think we can agree that rich is more powerful than Devon, but Devon has the capability to take everyone's leverage away (barring his match with Randall). Jerry on the other hand gives everything up, as far as leverage goes, and then plows through his opponents. And I thought rich got a win on devon? Might've been misinformed on that one.
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Post by John Milne on Aug 30, 2011 17:02:50 GMT -5
Richard did not get a win on Devon, with all due respect, that supermatch wasn't close at all. One more thing even Richard would not agree that he has more power than Devon. He said himself that he's never felt anything like that kind of power before... at any point in his career.
Jerry does not have the same record as Devon, they're not even close really. You're omitting several of the top 10 pullers in the world Devon has beat since 2008. Ron Bath has wins over Jerry that I'm not sure are avenged. Bath's (2nd) match with Larratt was another 6-0 victory that looked fairly easy. Both were relatively around the same time period I think.
Jerry does not give everything up, but he does pull all his "eggs in one basket" so to speak. Jerry renders leverage and hand control (for toprollers) relatively useless. Jerry is not just powering through guys or he'd be flashing them over and over. He took John to a point of relative failure in their match. It's much easier to conserve energy using Jerry's style than a conventional one.
I think Jerry is a very tough opponent for anyone. His style is unique and extremely effective, all respect to him. However I do not think he could take more than one match from Larratt. To be honest, I don't think he'd even take one, but nobody knows for sure. It's a match that many would like to see happen.
I doubt it would solidify Devon's number one ranking though, nothing ever does. There is always the next guy he NEEDS to beat to prove his number one position. This is good though as it keeps the animals hungry.
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Post by Marinos Pylarinos on Aug 30, 2011 22:28:27 GMT -5
Not too sure about records overall. I feel like jerry's tourney record is a bit more impressive. Devon's got the supermatches under his belt though. I mean no disrespect to devon, I met him in CT when he pulled Dave Randall. I know for certain he is a monSTAR(little space jam throw back ha). And I saw jerry pull Ron in CT after one of pete's tourneys. Jerry looked pretty comfortable. As for "keeping the animals hungry" it's not as though theyre simply contenders that Devon has beaten and want a shot at the title he earned by beating all the best. They are the best that he hasn't faced yet. After that, there will only be guys looking for a rematch or guys on their way to the top( which would constitute a title defense type deal). On another note. Wouldn't mind seeing a rematch between Devon and Taras. Just saw that vendetta online, intense stuff. Thought Devon had it after the first 2 :/.
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Post by Arturo Garcia on Aug 31, 2011 8:16:20 GMT -5
John Miline: you don't think Jerry could take ONE match from Devon? Even considering Michael Todd took 2?
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Post by Don Underwood on Aug 31, 2011 10:22:45 GMT -5
I beat Devon like a drum and it sounded like this BAM BAM BAM. LOL
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Post by Devon Larratt on Aug 31, 2011 10:36:51 GMT -5
Nice Don, i seem to remember 4-3, and walking away with the money. i think there were 3 other guys who could have beat you in the same tournament. Bresnan, Lupkes and Todd. If you can actually really win a few matches, i will face you in the new year. good luck with your training and watch your blood pressure.
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Post by Hungry Hippo on Aug 31, 2011 16:25:16 GMT -5
Jerry will win at least one match...as long as that match was with Brzenk proves he has stamina...maybe not as much as Devon but this will be determined...personally, It always comes to the leaner guy in the more enduring stamina..I say Devon 4-2 on this
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