Forced Vaccinations?!?!

[Chris Kaufman]

So, the hospital that I work at is making the FLU shot mandatory. I can get an exemption only for medical or religious reasons, and if I manage to get that, I would have to wear a surgical mask during FLU season while at work. If I don't get the shot by a certain date, then I will have "willfully resigned".

I don't work directly with patients. I've gotten FLU shots before, but decided since the whole H1N1 crap that I wasn't going to get them anymore. Plus in the past, I've always felt like crap for a few days after taking the stupid shot.

Am I wrong in thinking that it's crap for them to make it mandatory? Also is it legal?

[Johnny Edwards]

I don't see how it's legal, seems fishy to me, to be honest. We shouldn't be required to take anything we do not want to have put in our body. IT'S OUR BODIES FOR GOODNESS SAKE!!!!

[Kyle Fitzpatrick]

personally, if the job paid well enough, i'd wear the mask before letting them inject me with their government poison. just go ahead call their bluff. they probably assume you'll either cave and go along with the crowd, or refuse and quit. the only "winning" option i see (without "lawyering up") is wear the mask. at my old job, i had to wear a dust mask or a respirator most of the day. it's annoying, but you get used to it. if you can find a way to avoid the shot and the mask - all the better. it's the same issue with my kids and school. i can't afford private school, and the public schools in our area require all the government shots. what do you do?

[Karen Bean]

It's a flu shot!

Granted, I hate being told that I have to do this or that. But at the same time, especially working in a hospital, I'd take every vaccination known to man! People are sick in those places, carrying every disease you can possibly think of and then some.

All my life I never got a flu shot and only had the flu once when I was about 12 years old. Now, raising 2 grandchildren that are in school and being the age I am, I am the first in line to get stuck to keep from getting the flu.

With any vaccines - it just makes it easier, I think. As a kid, I got chicken pox, measles, mumps, Rubella, and everything else out there. And, we all survived. But now that they have the vaccines, it is a whole lot easier to keep your kids from getting everything that comes along.

And I don't believe that it's just a matter of you or your children being healthy. Back when I was a kid and when I was raising my kids, we stayed home if we were sick. My mother did not send us to school and I didn't send mine to school if they were sick. Now days, the majority of kids are sent to school sick or not. Parents can't afford to take off from work to stay home with a sick kid so they send them to infect everybody else they come in contact with.

Bottom line Chris, you don't have to take the shot. It is up to you. If it were me, I'd be wearing a mask working at a hospital anyway!

[Robert Bishop]

that would suck if your job was on the line

i will never get another shot unless i had to/good reason

it makes you wonder just how they plan on population reduction like has been talked about by some

[Michael Wells]

It's not just a flew shot. Same reason they "force" babies to get HepB shots. You get it sexually or if the mother has it, so why the heck are babies forced to get these shots?? If my kids didn't get their shots for school (they didn't by the way. All 5 of my kids didn't), then what do other kids have to worry about if they're "protected" by THEIR shots?
I'd fight it man, but that's just how think. I'd talk to a lawer, do some research to find out your legal rights.... Just like my kids schools say it's MANDATORY, but it's not. Just have to fill out a piece of paper (carefully reading it's terminology and content), and get them notarized. Pain in the butt but why do they make it so hard when it's MY choice?
Karen, I don't know how familiar you are with what's in these shots (overall), and I don't totally agree with every conspirator out there but after my own research, it only makes sense to stay away from all of it.

[Karen Bean]

Mike, HepB also is contracted through saliva, tears, urine - bodily fluids. HepB is in epidemic proportion in China, Asia and Africa. Considering your children "could" contract it just from another child crying and considering the effects of it, I'd sure get the vaccine.

What everyone does have to consider is epidemics happening again in this country. When we were kids, we were vaccinated for smallpox. Stands to reason considering what smallpox had done.

I do find it very interesting that everyone from my generation and my children's generation were vaccinated and we didn't seem to have any of the problems that people now want to attribute to vaccinations of today.

[Johnny Edwards]

Major risk factors for hepatitis B

In the United States, the major risk factors for hepatitis B are unprotected sex with multiple partners and intravenous (IV) drug use.


HEPATITIS B

Hemodialysis
Patients of custodial institutions for developmentally disabled
Exposure to blood/blood clot products
Needle-stick injury
Sexual activity with multiple (heterosexual or homosexual) partners
IV drug use
Infants of HBV-positive mothers
Tattooing
Body piercing

[Johnny Edwards]

You can only catch Hep A through saliva, not Hep B. It is a sexually transmitted disease that is 50 to 100 times more potent than HIV. But you can't catch it from saliva unless the persons mouth is bleeding.

[Michael Wells]

Correct!

[Kyle Fitzpatrick]

[Kyle Fitzpatrick]

[Karen Bean]

Hepatitis B is an infectious illness caused by hepatitis B virus (HBV) which infects the liver of hominoidea, including humans, and causes an inflammation called hepatitis. Originally known as "serum hepatitis",[1] the disease has caused epidemics in parts of Asia and Africa, and it is endemic in China.[2] About a quarter of the world's population, more than 2 billion people, have been infected with the hepatitis B virus.[3] This includes 350 million chronic carriers of the virus.[4] Transmission of hepatitis B virus results from exposure to infectious blood or body fluids such as semen and vag inal fluids, while viral DNA has been detected in the saliva, tears, and urine of chronic carriers with high titer DNA in serum. Perinatal infection is a major route of infection in endemic (mainly developing) countries.[5] Other risk factors for developing HBV infection include working in a health care setting, transfusions, and dialysis, acupuncture, tattooing, extended overseas travel and residence in an institution. [6] [3][7] However, Hepatitis B viruses cannot be spread by casual contact, such as holding hands, sharing eating utensils or drinking glasses, breast-feeding, kissing, hugging, coughing, or sneezing.[8]

[Johnny Edwards]

The Not-So-Easy Answer

Since it's also been said that nothing in life is easy, maybe this question isn't as simple as we'd like it to be. The complexity comes from what is theoretically possible versus what is realistically probable. Realistically you're not going to get viral hepatitis from kissing. However it is theoretically possible. Since any type of direct contact with infected blood is a possible way to spread some of these viruses, there are kissing scenarios where the risk of exposure increases. I'll let your imagination wonder, but think about cold sores, cuts and prolonged kissing.

[Johnny Edwards]

How is Hepatitis B spread?
Hepatitis B is spread when blood, semen, or other body fluid infected with the Hepatitis B virus enters the body of a person who is not infected. People can become infected with the virus during activities such as:
Birth (spread from an infected mother to her baby during birth)
Sex with an infected partner
Sharing needles, syringes, or other drug-injection equipment
Sharing items such as razors or toothbrushes with an infected person
Direct contact with the blood or open sores of an infected person
Exposure to blood from needlesticks or other sharp instruments

^thats from the center for disease controls website