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Post by Shawn Lattimer on Oct 2, 2011 16:31:18 GMT -5
Joints or just done what you could and try a new challenge? too damn sore from AW practice every week. I switched over to AW because I was bored with benching. I competed for 12 years.
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Post by Shawn Lattimer on Oct 2, 2011 16:39:44 GMT -5
Sorry guys I can't help thinking the shirt is kinda gay. I feel these guys are amazing athletes and should get the fame for the big lifts they do...And I understand this has nothing to do with them or the talent that they have .don't you think having the shirt is the ultimate in over exaggeration...like the fisherman that says I caught a fish this....big. without any proof to show someone. I guess my question is maybe to you Shawn if you had your way back in the day would want the shirts invoved or would you be happy with only raw events ? And let let me say I knew nothing about armwrestling when I started and the longer I do it the more I see I need to learn so I am not trying to be a dk just understand something that makes no sense to me. 405 2xs was the most I ever did I never had a shirt but if I did and I was able to do 100lbs more I don't think I would ever tell anyone about any lift other thn the 405. Please enlighten me All a matter of perception. Same argument exists inside the Powerlifting world, so you are not alone. Any powerlifting forum has this exact same thread on it with different names. From a competing standpoint---I prefer the shirts. Its a whole additional layer of complexity, technique, training, etc. The couple of times I competed raw, it was just boring. Working big weights in the shirt takes a ton of technique. Raw is like armwrestling with just the hook. The good toproller and the strap guy could easily kick ass in their strong areas, but they can't go there, all they can do is hook. Not a perfect analogy---but you get the idea. I've never been the strongest guy on the bench raw. But my technique and ability to work the shirt puts me in the elite. And the sport has nothing to do with who is stronger, its about who puts up the most weight. Two different things.
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Post by Dan Fortuna on Oct 2, 2011 17:04:19 GMT -5
ok.... intresting... like everything else. their is more to it than meets the eye. Thanks for the input
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Post by John Schnell on Oct 2, 2011 17:05:07 GMT -5
Did you guys see the video of armwrestling where the one guy uses his whole body to pin the other guy? That just makes me sick, it's called armwrestling not body weight wrestling.
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Post by Dan Fortuna on Oct 2, 2011 17:30:50 GMT -5
wow great point John!!
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Post by Hungry Hippo on Oct 2, 2011 17:40:28 GMT -5
Did you guys see the video of armwrestling where the one guy uses his whole body to pin the other guy? That just makes me sick, it's called armwrestling not body weight wrestling. terrible analogy...your arm has to keep up with your body when you use it..........lets put the pin pads 4 inches from our hands that way it wont take much to pin someone...same as the 4 inch movement in the video
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Post by Shawn Lattimer on Oct 2, 2011 18:14:13 GMT -5
Did you guys see the video of armwrestling where the one guy uses his whole body to pin the other guy? That just makes me sick, it's called armwrestling not body weight wrestling. terrible analogy...your arm has to keep up with your body when you use it..........lets put the pin pads 4 inches from our hands that way it wont take much to pin someone...same as the 4 inch movement in the video Once again, the video was a training lift.....not by any means a competition lift. Damn you're stupid.
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Post by Hungry Hippo on Oct 2, 2011 18:28:24 GMT -5
terrible analogy...your arm has to keep up with your body when you use it..........lets put the pin pads 4 inches from our hands that way it wont take much to pin someone...same as the 4 inch movement in the video Once again, the video was a training lift.....not by any means a competition lift. Damn you're stupid. Training lift? Then how come I see them at competition use the shirt and block?......I'm stupid about like you can armwrestle..
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Post by Shawn Lattimer on Oct 2, 2011 18:31:34 GMT -5
Once again, the video was a training lift.....not by any means a competition lift. Damn you're stupid. Training lift? Then how come I see them at competition use the shirt and block?......I'm stupid about like you can armwrestle.. Funny----I seem to win a lot for a guy who can't armwrestle. You can't use a board in competition. where did you get that idea? A lot of guys use the board to warm up. You cannot use it on the platform. You really are ignorant.
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Post by Hungry Hippo on Oct 2, 2011 18:54:06 GMT -5
yeah, guess I am ignorant at 4 inch presses..fact is the video never said warm up press...it clearly insinuates in captions during the video that it is a valid lift by flaunting the numbers periodically...so yeah I have been mislead.....it happens... now lets all go enjoy some Tea and honey-dipped willy pumps and discuss the molecular structure of Georgia pine trees
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Post by Shawn Lattimer on Oct 2, 2011 19:45:20 GMT -5
yeah, guess I am ignorant at 4 inch presses..fact is the video never said warm up press...it clearly insinuates in captions during the video that it is a valid lift by flaunting the numbers periodically...so yeah I have been mislead.....it happens... now lets all go enjoy some Tea and honey-dipped willy pumps and discuss the molecular structure of Georgia pine trees Don't sell yourself short. I'm absolutely certain you are ignorant in so many other ways........
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Post by Rick Laton on Oct 2, 2011 20:12:17 GMT -5
Seriously? Seriously? Did you just tell him to quit talking crap unless he was the guy that can out lift him? Seriously? There are 200 hours of you talking junk on Arm Tv about the same time you were losing your first 45 Supermatches! Seriously? Let them work it out. No need for you to stir the pot. Get back to training. You might be finally getting good enough to back up some of your mouth! Cut the boy some slack. I think all he is saying is would be MORE impressive if he was forced to have a longer range of motion. I don't bench press obviously but when I (An outsider to the sport) think of a 1000 lb bench press that is not what comes to my mind. I think more of the long motion, slow stop at the bottom and this longgggg press back up. He just made it look too easy I guess. Be nice boys ;D Lost 45 supermatches huh? thats cute. laton, youre a little pu$sy and you wish you had half the talent i have. that being said i can stir any pot i wish. I talk crap with the ability to back it up. Quinn is talking trash on a powerlifter who is legit and is doing legit lifts. Don't get all bent out of shape big boy. I'm just stating facts. Exaggerated? Yes. But facts none the less. Unless I'm wrong you do have a losing record in super matches. If you have caught up it has only been in the last few for sure. I think most on this board will agree that you only got those super match chances because of your mouth. Not because of your ability. You were beaten handily the first two or three. Nothing wrong with losing. I seem to be doing it pretty regularly the last bunch of years. Thanks for reminding me. You were just dogging him for running his mouth when you do the same thing. Just calling you on it. BTW, half the talent huh? I assure you that if I spent a 1/4 of the time, training, pulling, eating right, juicing? (Supplements /Whatever : that you do, I would own you. I have basically done nothing more than pull about once or twice a month for the last 15 years, have no leverage whatsoever on the table and I might still give you a little trouble. You are in the glory years of your career big boy. You better enjoy them while you can. Kids come in and take precedent. I've got 7 years until my son graduates and I'm gonna get real bored real quick. I'll come looking for you in about 8 years. Write it down. Remind me. If you can find time to pull between baseball games and cheerleading competitions. I'm 44 right now. Gonna be funny when a 52 year old man takes you out. Oh wait, Allen Fisher and Ron Klemba already did that! Ouch!
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Oct 3, 2011 0:14:21 GMT -5
Sorry guys I can't help thinking the shirt is kinda gay. I feel these guys are amazing athletes and should get the fame for the big lifts they do...And I understand this has nothing to do with them or the talent that they have .don't you think having the shirt is the ultimate in over exaggeration...like the fisherman that says I caught a fish this....big. without any proof to show someone. I guess my question is maybe to you Shawn if you had your way back in the day would want the shirts invoved or would you be happy with only raw events ? And let let me say I knew nothing about armwrestling when I started and the longer I do it the more I see I need to learn so I am not trying to be a dk just understand something that makes no sense to me. 405 2xs was the most I ever did I never had a shirt but if I did and I was able to do 100lbs more I don't think I would ever tell anyone about any lift other thn the 405. Please enlighten me All a matter of perception. Same argument exists inside the Powerlifting world, so you are not alone. Any powerlifting forum has this exact same thread on it with different names. From a competing standpoint---I prefer the shirts. Its a whole additional layer of complexity, technique, training, etc. The couple of times I competed raw, it was just boring. Working big weights in the shirt takes a ton of technique. Raw is like armwrestling with just the hook. The good toproller and the strap guy could easily kick ass in their strong areas, but they can't go there, all they can do is hook. Not a perfect analogy---but you get the idea. I've never been the strongest guy on the bench raw. But my technique and ability to work the shirt puts me in the elite. And the sport has nothing to do with who is stronger, its about who puts up the most weight. Two different things. ^ I can understand that perspective. Maybe you get bored and wanna throw technique into it. But when it comes to the absolute strongest bench presser the raw lifter is who sticks out in my mind. Just my perception i guess. I just think it's the actual strength level that isn't blown up with added help. I know you say there is technique to the shirt and I do buy that but at the end of the day strong is strong. The shirt obviously helps for a fact. Wouldn't you agree?
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Post by Hungry Hippo on Oct 3, 2011 0:28:25 GMT -5
yeah, guess I am ignorant at 4 inch presses..fact is the video never said warm up press...it clearly insinuates in captions during the video that it is a valid lift by flaunting the numbers periodically...so yeah I have been mislead.....it happens... now lets all go enjoy some Tea and honey-dipped willy pumps and discuss the molecular structure of Georgia pine trees Don't sell yourself short. I'm absolutely certain you are ignorant in so many other ways........ I won't......I'm just glad I don't look like you...that would be worse than being ignorant
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Post by Shawn Lattimer on Oct 3, 2011 5:51:46 GMT -5
All a matter of perception. Same argument exists inside the Powerlifting world, so you are not alone. Any powerlifting forum has this exact same thread on it with different names. From a competing standpoint---I prefer the shirts. Its a whole additional layer of complexity, technique, training, etc. The couple of times I competed raw, it was just boring. Working big weights in the shirt takes a ton of technique. Raw is like armwrestling with just the hook. The good toproller and the strap guy could easily kick ass in their strong areas, but they can't go there, all they can do is hook. Not a perfect analogy---but you get the idea. I've never been the strongest guy on the bench raw. But my technique and ability to work the shirt puts me in the elite. And the sport has nothing to do with who is stronger, its about who puts up the most weight. Two different things. ^ I can understand that perspective. Maybe you get bored and wanna throw technique into it. But when it comes to the absolute strongest bench presser the raw lifter is who sticks out in my mind. Just my perception i guess. I just think it's the actual strength level that isn't blown up with added help. I know you say there is technique to the shirt and I do buy that but at the end of the day strong is strong. The shirt obviously helps for a fact. Wouldn't you agree? I don't disagree. The guy who is strongest raw is the strongest. No question. And anybody who gives any song and dance that the shirt doesn't help is either totally misinformed or trying to hide some insecurity.
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