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Post by enginterzi on Sept 11, 2004 15:28:23 GMT -5
the picture of this match is at the first page of Mazurenko's site.its at the right bottom.http://www.armpower.net/
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Amedeo Goga
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Post by Amedeo Goga on Sept 11, 2004 15:31:19 GMT -5
You are a great man Engin...Wow that sound like a great exciting match you had with Tzvetan Gashevski !!! Is there a video link so I could watch this war It's disappoing to lose a match like that especially after coming so close to winning it !!! If you saw the 2 matches where Oncescu loses to Tzvetan Gashevski, Oncescu had him about 2 inches from the pad...Oncescu was so close, yet so far...And that's the way life goes...!!! Engin, is it true that when you were in America, you stayed over by John Brzenk's house ? you can not be sure how strong a wrist is as until it gets pressure by strap! ok,Gashevski had a real high grip and super back pressure and i did the same.normally im very fast too but since what happened to me unfairly day before with left hand i had no sleep and motivation left.so reacted much faster and hit SO strong!!!! when my arm got 4 inches to the pin pad his wrist got bended back,then he went back and hit,and back and hit 4 or 5 more times but everytime he hit he was losing his hand and arm angle more and i was having better position.because his hits were becoming weaker.but everything was happenning so fast for me to react and when i realised that it was my turn to move my elbow just got a little out of pad for an eye blink and i got foul.at the restart he didnt put pressure as much as he did at the first match and i made a big mistake and did the same.with the go i felt an incredible hit and my elbow tendon got injured i heard strange clicks while my arm was slowly went to the pad.this s how i lost to him and then i also lost to the Russian whom i beat in an eye blink a match before i pulled Gashevski.
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Post by enginterzi on Sept 11, 2004 15:38:11 GMT -5
its not true.who told you this? i wasnt close to win against Gashevski.but i was having better position everytime he hit me in the strap and his wrist was bended while my wrist was like a rock as always:) Ion had him there with the go then went back to the other side once Gashevski stopped him.
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Post by Florin Butusina on Sept 11, 2004 20:18:32 GMT -5
yes Engin i was there!!! Cvetan is VERY good in side pressure and he is very fast but i think he is very vulnerable for top roll !!!! Stoyan Golemanov pin Cvetan with no stress in 1 sec in open final .... they go to straps and in the straps Golemanov top roll Cvetan !!! A very good top roll , Cvetan lost his wrist totaly!!!! I think that Golemanov has a very good style: STRONG but VERY STONG back pressure with low hand !!! Golemanov has 23 years old:) he is very young for that stenght ;D
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Post by Charlie Minell on Sept 11, 2004 20:37:31 GMT -5
Stoyan Golemanov is not in the same weightclass as Tzvetan!! I wouldn't say that Tzvetan is vulnerable in the toproll against pullers in his own weightclass. Of course he can lose in the toproll against pullers in the heavier classes. I can tell you 20 heavyweights that probably could toproll him and win. Tzvetan can lose both in the toproll and the hook. It all depends on the opponents and the weightclasses they're in.
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Post by Florin Butusina on Sept 11, 2004 20:43:16 GMT -5
Cvetan was 79 kg and Golemanov 83
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Post by Charlie Minell on Sept 11, 2004 20:53:49 GMT -5
79!!!?? Are you sure?? That sounds strange! He has never been that heavy before what I know! Last time I heard anything Tzvetan was under 75 kg and Golemanov was heavier than 85 kg.
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Post by Alper Cosar on Sept 11, 2004 20:55:59 GMT -5
If he beats georgi that easy then he should be damn good. I saw Georgi winning Stanton and Seleris without any problem. I think Georgi in form is probably in the first 5 at 85 kgs. in the world. At least his hook.
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Post by enginterzi on Sept 12, 2004 2:32:24 GMT -5
Gashevski has beaten Golemanov almost everytime they have pulled.so a lose cant give me nothing to prove.
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Post by Florin Butusina on Sept 12, 2004 5:06:51 GMT -5
Cvetan - 79,4 kg Golemanov - 83,5 kg Ivanov - 79,8 kg
yes engin you are right!!!! ivanov said "Cvetan is not ready yet"
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Post by enginterzi on Sept 12, 2004 14:28:40 GMT -5
i am sure that he knows that it will be harder next time when he meets me.
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Post by Florin Butusina on Sept 12, 2004 14:42:03 GMT -5
like Golemanov BACK PRESSURE
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Post by Charlie Minell on Sept 13, 2004 15:30:11 GMT -5
Cvetan was 79 kg and Golemanov 83 Tzvetan was 74 kg one week ago at the Pro league.
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Post by Florin Butusina on Sept 13, 2004 16:46:38 GMT -5
i saw with my eyes !!!! PROMISE!!!!!!!!
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Post by Charlie Minell on Sept 13, 2004 17:24:04 GMT -5
I believe you, but he must have been on a very strict diet. he he. ;D
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