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Post by kyledarby on Jan 30, 2012 13:07:50 GMT -5
Pretty ignorant whoever pulls him hopefully retires him after his first match.
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Post by Jody Williams on Jan 30, 2012 13:16:41 GMT -5
IF the dude even shows------it should be very funny.
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Post by tomnelson on Jan 30, 2012 16:17:59 GMT -5
If this guy is for real I'm gonna have 20k extra for WAF ...I mite get to pull zloty also!!!..LMFAO
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Post by Aaron Blevins on Jan 30, 2012 16:44:46 GMT -5
Last time this happened was a guy in indiana. The bet was $20,000 and Brzenk won. I would love to have seen that go down, did he pay up? If so, thats amazing! Wow
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Post by Bob Brown on Jan 30, 2012 18:30:57 GMT -5
Last time this happened was a guy in indiana. The bet was $20,000 and Brzenk won. I would love to have seen that go down, did he pay up? If so, thats amazing! Wow Yes they did. Basically one Rich guy bet another Rich guy. They both had there puller. Of course one was John and the other was complete no one. There was lost of side betting. Everyone that bet on John agreed to give John @10% of their winnings. John got a little over $2,000. And Yes, John just killed him.
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Post by Arturo Garcia on Feb 1, 2012 7:53:39 GMT -5
Lots of side betting on John Brzenk vs. "A Noone"? Well there's a surprise!! LOL.
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Post by Rob Vigeant Jr. on Feb 2, 2012 10:11:12 GMT -5
I don't know why people aren't jumping all over this. Does this guys confidence have you all doubting yourselves ? You are PROFESSIONALS.... Give the guy what he wants.... An a$$ whipping You all are digging and prodding trying to figure what this guy is all about.... Really ? If I was in the remote area I would have already met with him and had it settled. I have been in this position a few times before... Guy tells my father he will piss through anyone.... Anyone!! But it costs $500 for him to even consider pulling. My old man says "deal, put up the money And as soon as I call my kid to come down it's a bet.... You decide to bow out upon him walking in and shaking his hand guess what, money is ours.... Get it ?" This particular guy put himself in check, but I have been in this exact spot a bunch of times and for big money. It's easy to doubt yourself when a guy you never ever seen wants to put up big money and are so overly confident regardless of knowing you are a competitive armwrestler.... I check any doubt real quick.... I have felt and competed with the bests this sport has to offer... Is this guy gonna show up bringing something even close ?.... No Considering a match like that would most likely be like practice table pulling and be more eased into.... I'd put up my own money if arsen was waiting down the road for me.... Nevermind a guy I never heard of.
Half the time I engage in stuff like this it's just to show the gap between REAL pullers and the guy who never lost.... It's an education. I am happy to oblige when someone wants a feel that way the sport seems legit when the local superhero can't even make a grimace on your face.
Someone oblige this fellow.... Don't go feeling him out, chances are he will get shook and retract his bet. Have him send in a grand to Jacob Abbott....non refundable if mystery puller shows up, Someone else do the same... Then pull.... Winner takes it.
If he sent money in and it was secured.... I know I'd get on a plane if the math worked out..... Just saying
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Post by John Wilson on Feb 2, 2012 11:04:04 GMT -5
Totally with you, Rob. But the cash would have to be secured before I'd even get off the couch. Every one of us has had one of these, only to end up sitting at the bar for three hours waiting on Mr. Neverbeenbeat who never shows. Not to mention wasting your buddy's time who went with you to make sure Mr. Neverbeenbeat doesn't try to get his money back with a tire iron after his humiliating defeat.
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Post by Rob Vigeant Jr. on Feb 2, 2012 11:57:24 GMT -5
I absolutely would come ... If there was secured money. Understand I am coming from across the country, having the money up front is necessary.. If I was Jacob or devin mackin I would be there as there is no expense .... He's in your back yard..... If he hems and haws and can't come up with any money.... Then we all know he is a bullish;tter... If he has it then you pull.
People have a way of complicating things. I wouldn't need a lawyer, refs, armtv or any baloney to figure it out
Throw a table in your truck, go meet the guy, be friendly , it's an armwrestling match... He expects to win, but must know losing is an option..... It is what it is. Do a best of 11....21.... Whatever. He will get whacked and say" oh I wasn't ready" then after you feel him, let him be comfy and ready... Then beat him... And continue to beat him .... Shake his hand, tell him he's the best you ever felt, he should compete, buy him a beer or two, sing too ra loo ra loo ra... Be merry , go home with a pocket full of dough.
I used to play pool for big money, I never had a problem getting paid... Everyone knows the rules.... You put up your money, play the game, someone wins and someone loses..... No other options.... Thats that, not that difficult.
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Post by Rob Vigeant Jr. on Feb 2, 2012 13:55:50 GMT -5
How many guys pay well over a grand to get to waf worlds just to go two and out, or get fouled two matches and never really get to get into the mix ? I know of a lot
I love Mohegan sun, love all casinos and gambling actually. I would cream my draws if they had a game called beat the dealer..... At armwrestling.... Can you imagine. Who cares who the dealer is, I gotta believe that I have a much MUCH better chance of getting the money than all the games I lose thousands on designed by mathematicians to make you not win. If I can pony up a grand on chance and lady luck, I'd be happy to do on something I KNOW I am good at and have solid odds.
If I got stomped, well, maybe I had the misfortune of meeting a true super freak.... But whether by an unknown puller for a grand or getting crushed at worlds for a grand.... It's all context Fact is... You are armwrestling, might lose , it will cost if you do BIG difference is, I'm betting winning waf is much harder than beating a single guy, if you win you get paid unlike worlds, but it's easier saying you lost because you drew rustam first round and not that you got smashed by some cellar dweller.
Idk... It's a gamble.... I like the odds on this gamble
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Post by John Wilson on Feb 2, 2012 16:46:01 GMT -5
I'll do it. Rob, can I borrow ten grand? I seem to be about ten grand light at the moment....
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Post by Rob Vigeant Jr. on Feb 2, 2012 17:08:33 GMT -5
I'll do it. Rob, can I borrow ten grand? I seem to be about ten grand light at the moment.... Odd, I was gonna ask you the same thing... Who says it has to be 10k ? Why not $500 for a local guy that is a drive away ? If there are minimums like 10k than the guy doesn't want to pull and is using an imaginary number he knows nobody will put up. My point was for local guys.... You can take him up on it.... Without getting your hands on a home downpayment.
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Post by John Wilson on Feb 2, 2012 17:28:03 GMT -5
I'm just pulling your chain. Unless you got 10K I can borrow...
I am agreeing with you. If the dude says 'any amount' then I'd put up as much as he was willing to match, so long as it was secured and he agrees to lose it if he no-shows. Anybody who throws 'any amount' out there ought to be talking at least $500.
Whoever pulls the guy is going to have to pull him 4 times. The first time you win he wasn't ready. The second time you cheated by turning your shoulders. The third time you bent your wrist, which is against the rules. The fourth time you just hold him in the middle of the table, calmly giving him pointers while the purple vein in his forehead looks like it will burst. You have have to hold him until he gives up, or you can sell it by pretending to work hard so he doesn't go jump off a bridge on the way home.
He's probably not a bad guy at all. Probably just one more big dude with a strong hand (for a civilian) who beats all the guys on the job site.
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Post by Josh Dale on Feb 2, 2012 17:45:57 GMT -5
I'm just pulling your chain. He's probably not a bad guy at all. Probably just one more big dude with a strong hand (for a civilian) who beats all the guys on the job site. Or it's another Eric Brown ;D Just stirring the pot a bit here
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Post by John Wilson on Feb 2, 2012 18:01:17 GMT -5
I'm just pulling your chain. He's probably not a bad guy at all. Probably just one more big dude with a strong hand (for a civilian) who beats all the guys on the job site. Or it's another Eric Brown ;D Just stirring the pot a bit here Yes! Those guys do exist. Add Wilton Brock to the list. The difference is Eric Brown and Wilton Brock are actual competitors. They just don't get out enough to be recognized by people outside their immediate area. But freaks do exist, for sure.
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