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Post by tomnelson on Feb 2, 2012 23:18:50 GMT -5
I'm not that tall so most people don't LOOK up to me...we ALL look down on you....and No one here likes your fake post about anything...one more thing...when we were over at your place for Randy weavers birth day...there was a train ran on your mom...I see where you get your endurance from....from this point on I'm done with you....don't Show up to practice we don't like you...you now are no longer a ca armbender...take care you have been replaced by Karl Darby....
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Post by Gene Spiker on Feb 3, 2012 8:49:17 GMT -5
Tom your a joke... Your weak, Your a f a g, Your left leg is really weak, and you look like a cali re tar d on crack... Your a little guy.. We know that your used to riding on the short bus.... stfu and go train... Your a has been.. Deal with it...;0
Spiker.........
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Post by Jacob Hale on Feb 3, 2012 21:08:14 GMT -5
Tom, are you really set up to pull this guy? What are the details so far (right or left, dollar amount, ect.)?
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Post by Mike Garavalia on Feb 3, 2012 22:41:00 GMT -5
I'm a lawyer. My advice is don't involve lawyers. Will get too complicated and expensive. ;D
Seriously, though, unless gambling is legal and licensed where and when this bet and resultant match takes place, a written contract isn't worth wiping your b u t t with. A contract is the legal result of an exchange of agreements/promises to do, or not do, certain things. Courts won't enforce contracts that are formed as a result of the parties agreements to do unlawful things (e.g., pay money only if I lose).
As to securing the money -- hire an escrow agent that each puller deposits the money with. That's assuming everything related to the event is legal. If it's not, no licensed escrow agent will touch it.
Also, there are probably a thousand ways to b.s. dispute a match result, including a claim of conspiracy b/t the ref and your opponent (because ref gave other guy an unfair advantage and now ref and your opponent are going to split the winnings, right?).
You just need a couple men of honor who will put up the dough, have a clean match, and do the right thing after the match is over. I hope that's what you find.
Has anyone considered investing in/sponsoring a "taker"? If there's a "taker" deserving of confidence, why not put up some money on his behalf in exchange for a proportional return on the winnings?
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Post by Tony Kitowski on Feb 4, 2012 12:21:09 GMT -5
I commend this gentlemen. there is a thin line between ignorance and confidence. He may be a guy who goes to bars and a couple small tournaments and wins. But setting him up with a true top of the line armwrestler just to make his so called ignorance disapear is not right. He is a confident man, and for that i commend him. But nobody should be tearing him down or attempting to make this his last match. You never know who the next big promoter might be. Someone needs to meet up with the man, talk and pull with him.
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Post by tomnelson on Feb 4, 2012 13:09:13 GMT -5
What world title did you win tony?
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Post by Tony Kitowski on Feb 4, 2012 13:28:11 GMT -5
2006 mohegan sun world championship. When I got injured four and a half years ago, you were up and coming. Good to see you have made it so far. Congrats.
Tony
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Post by Jacob Hale on Feb 4, 2012 13:38:50 GMT -5
I disagree Tony. If a guy says that he can beat anyone in the world AND is willing to put any amount of money on it, it's now a business transaction. Pure and simple. It's not about busting his bubble, it's about busting his wallet and since he issued the challenge, any able and willing armwrestler has ever right to try and take as much money as they can from him.
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Post by Mike Garavalia on Feb 5, 2012 1:38:00 GMT -5
Again, investment opportunity. I don't know much, but I know business and I know money. Someone worth a S H I T that needs backing to make a megabuck should call on an investor. What isn't this happening? I'm baffled as to why there isn't a 100K match yet. Or a million for that matter. I'm new to AW. But it seems to me, the higher the stakes, the more people watch, get involved, TV channels, etc. Why isn't this happening?
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Post by Jacob Abbott on Feb 5, 2012 8:52:18 GMT -5
So i meet Chuck like 2 1/2 years ago at a Super match show that i put on. After words he came up & wanted to armwrestle. So we set up. The guy has a big forearm & a small hand, so i top rolled him & we slipped. I said lets put on the strap he didn't want to & he was done pulling. He says i couldn't move his arm. He called a couple weeks ago & wanted to start training & asked if i new anyone to pull for big money. I second guessed myself since i haven't pulled or worked out in over 9 months. So I talked to a couple guys & now this is where we are with it. I talked to Chuck yesterday & told him that we needed to pull before he puts up any kind of money over $500 so he could see where he stands for real. He said I won't be able to move his arm just like last time, I told him i think different & i don't think he can beat me. He said he needs to save his arm because he is going to UAL this weekend on the 11th in Huntington beach. He has a Super match there with someone. Wouldn't tell me with who. So anyone going to UAL this next weekend bring some money & see what Chuck is all about. He also said he is going to Portland to pull Tom Nelson & Devin Makin & if i wanted some of him I need to go there also. I would like Chuck to stay in it & train with me. A guy like that with that much fire has to be a good training partner. So anyone who comes in contact with Chuck keep it real & we might have some new blood in Washington State. He has got me fired up & off the couch so you guys might also see me around a little bit more
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Post by Bill Collins on Feb 5, 2012 9:25:32 GMT -5
So i meet Chuck like 2 1/2 years ago at a Super match show that i put on. After words he came up & wanted to armwrestle. So we set up. The guy has a big forearm & a small hand, so i top rolled him & we slipped. I said lets put on the strap he didn't want to & he was done pulling. He says i couldn't move his arm. He called a couple weeks ago & wanted to start training & asked if i new anyone to pull for big money. I second guessed myself since i haven't pulled or worked out in over 9 months. So I talked to a couple guys & now this is where we are with it. I talked to Chuck yesterday & told him that we needed to pull before he puts up any kind of money over $500 so he could see where he stands for real. He said I won't be able to move his arm just like last time, I told him i think different & i don't think he can beat me. He said he needs to save his arm because he is going to UAL this weekend on the 11th in Huntington beach. He has a Super match there with someone. Wouldn't tell me with who. So anyone going to UAL this next weekend bring some money & see what Chuck is all about. He also said he is going to Portland to pull Tom Nelson & Devin Makin & if i wanted some of him I need to go there also. I would like Chuck to stay in it & train with me. A guy like that with that much fire has to be a good training partner. So anyone who comes in contact with Chuck keep it real & we might have some new blood in Washington State. He has got me fired up & off the couch so you guys might also see me around a little bit more Talked with Chuck several times, he has a gang of confidence and seems like a good dude and I could of easily backed up any bet that was mentioned...and set up with up several top notch guys....So do you let him buy a lesson or teach him the sport...Needless to say I have to agree with Tony and went that direction....Sooooo if he don't take my advise bring your cash to Black Bull II, ya never know...i have three people on then list for his SM...I'd rather do it in his back yard and get all his buddies...
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Post by Josh McEllrath on Feb 5, 2012 11:25:25 GMT -5
Nice Jake!! Keep that fire burning! I knew you couldn't stay away long.
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Post by Brian Storie on Feb 5, 2012 11:52:53 GMT -5
A fired up motivated Jacob Abbott is a dangerous man!!
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