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Post by Gary Roberts on Feb 15, 2012 14:34:54 GMT -5
ohhh love the joe bros pic that was funny
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Post by mactelle on Feb 15, 2012 14:44:48 GMT -5
ohhh love the joe bros pic that was funny I knew you would Gary..... ;D |
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Post by Florian Kellersmann on Feb 15, 2012 14:51:48 GMT -5
I'm with Rob. Freaks are rare, but they are out there. Ishan Abbas from Germany/Hungary f. e. Won his first nationals directly, short after that he beat former WAF 2nd and WAF 3rd placers of his weight class...
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Post by Florian Kellersmann on Feb 15, 2012 14:54:09 GMT -5
Also more famous names: Voevoda and Remez. It took them not much more than a year to take WAF gold, I think...
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Post by Rick Laton on Feb 15, 2012 15:54:53 GMT -5
They are out there. We had a little hometown tournament about 7-8 years ago and this 15 year old kid shows up. I told him he had to have a parent sign the slip to pull so he had to get his dad to come down and sign. He weighed about 160. The class was 0 -165 that day with no novice classes since it was so small. He SMOKED me and had a WAR with Kevin Hicklin before running out of gas. His name was Derrick Housley. He pulled sporadically for a couple of years, never really learned what he was doing, but did very well not to practice. Remember, this was just a KID. He worked after school at the grocery store bagging groceries! How good would he have been if he had finished school, worked a job that used his arms and had showed up that first day a MAN and not a KID? My guess is Kevin would have probably gone down as well.
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Post by Derek Smith on Feb 15, 2012 16:10:12 GMT -5
I dont have time right now but someone either tell the story about 'Grif' at the last PAC or post the video from ARMTV. He beat scott partington without the slightest clue as to what he was doing, his first tournament.... ;D
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2012 16:49:14 GMT -5
So will anyone train him up out in Cali, or is this dude totally done with AW now?
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Post by Guy Windover on Feb 15, 2012 16:51:45 GMT -5
We have a guy on our team who came to my garage one year ago the end of January. Totally green. I could not do anything with him. He pulled his first tourney the next week, easily trashing the novice class. He pulled up into pro as well. His first match was Eric Roussin. The look on Erics face when they said go was priceless. The biggest OH SH*T expression I have seen out of Eric. Eric handled him after that initial go, but within 8 months we travelled to Ottawa and he won his first of I am sure many National titles in the 242 going totally undefeated.
In November he went undefeated in a 242 Round Robin containing many competitors including Eric, John Milne, Conrad Rouselle and others.
I would liken him to Chaffee in many regards. Now he just needs the tools of our trade. But beware south of the border if you run into Dan Kadlec. He was one of those guys.
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Post by DJ Summers on Feb 15, 2012 16:58:08 GMT -5
Rob correct me if i am wrong. I know there are some freaks out there. You are a bad dude so don't get me wrong but don't you think your hand was already above the norm from your grip training and competition background? I know you didn't know anything then, but maybe from the grip comps you were to strong for your opponents knowledge.T
echnique is only as good as you are strong when applying it.
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Post by Rob Vigeant Jr. on Feb 15, 2012 18:54:31 GMT -5
^^ yes and no, I did grip strength stuff because my hands and wrists were naturally really strong.... I was top in that game quick.
But that is the point.... I was an AW nobody with NO mileage on my arm and regardless of other things I had done the announcer couldn't even pronounce my name.
To the AW world I was an awkward gym rat...
I was just strong enough in the right spots to negate real technique.
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Post by Jonathan Vogt on Feb 15, 2012 19:43:31 GMT -5
I can vouch that hand grippers do not translate over to the table. I have found that when I try to train both hand grippers and armwretling the pain in my wrist sky rockets. I have let my grip strength drop a little bit but my hand strength on the table since then has skyrocketed. Arm wrestling is static and grip is dynamic motion. It takes time to learn how to properly transfer gripper and grip strength to the table.
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Post by Bob Brown on Feb 15, 2012 19:53:35 GMT -5
I agree that there are very strong guys out there that can step right in and do very very well in AW. However, I don't believe that there is anyone out there that can come in and beat the very best in AW.
Back in the 80's and 90's maybe as were people were still trying to figure out how to get specifically stronger for AW but now the elite have figured out how to train specifically for AW. Now with that being said, I do believe that there are some out there that could still win a world title with a years training.
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Post by Jacob Abbott on Feb 15, 2012 20:16:16 GMT -5
So will anyone train him up out in Cali, or is this dude totally done with AW now? Chuck has been calling me almost everyday. I am going to train with him starting this Saturday. I told him before he went down to pull at the UAL that we needed to hook up so we could see where he was at for real, but he wanted to save his arm & now he regrets not hooking up. He thinks he can be a elite puller & warts to learn. He said he was humbled & he needed that experience & now it is game on. SO we will see how far we can take him. He is going to Portland on the 25th of this month so i am just going to show him some technique for this one & not pull to hard to save his arm. |
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Post by Rob Vigeant Jr. on Feb 15, 2012 20:29:53 GMT -5
I agree that there are very strong guys out there that can step right in and do very very well in AW. However, I don't believe that there is anyone out there that can come in and beat the very best in AW. Back in the 80's and 90's maybe as were people were still trying to figure out how to get specifically stronger for AW but now the elite have figured out how to train specifically for AW. Now with that being said, I do believe that there are some out there that could still win a world title with a years training. I agree 100% |
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Post by Coley Jones on Feb 15, 2012 20:51:19 GMT -5
It's always neat to see stories of newbies entering pro classes and doing well. Wasn't there some Bowser guy in WA or OR in the last year or two?
Oh, and if we all had a nickel for every thread where Rob told his coming in to the sport story (usually 5 paragraphs or more), we'd have at least $5.00. lol.
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