Illuminati

[Johnny Edwards]

Thoughts on this video??? It's a long watch and I am not done watching. Just curious of opinions on it.

[Johnny Edwards]

I think there is propoganda on both sides. I think there is some truth with a lot of disinformation on both sides of any coin pretty much. Any thoughts?? He was a tyrant from all the people I have seen that said anything about him on the internet.

[Michael Wells]

Too crazy to be true but too obvious not to be. Didn't see the vid yet but the "mission" stands

[Robert Bishop]

if satan is called the god of this world, given to him until Christ comes down and sets up his kingdom for 1,000 y

if you believe that
then it shouldnt be a surprise to some that they are called illuminati, or illuminated ones by the light of Lucifer the light bearer

i think it is interesting that when Satan tempted Jesus he offered him the kingdoms of this world

i believe the illuminati are the highest level of satanist
and many of the elite/international bankers are illuminist

when Bill Schnobelen was in satanism he made it to what he called the 8th level of 10
and he said he was 1st level of 5 in the illuminati

list of what he was
1st level illuminist
33 degree mason
Catholic priest
he was also in what he called sexual vampirism which involved drinking blood everyday

He also says when he was a illuminist that George H Bush was also one at that time. He said he thought he would have gone insane had he not become a christian

He said that when he got out of it they tried to kill him many times

i am not saying to believe or disbelieve him but he is very interesting a knowledgeable about the masons, withcraft, mormonism, and the catholic church

there is a lot of his vids on youtube and the last one i listened to was called
interview with an x vampire which has nine one hr interviews/questions

[Justin Kerns]

I definitley believe in this and everything mr. Bishop said is true. Thats what are gonvernment is doing now is trying to bring about one world order the antichrist but it won't happen till God allows it but it will happen. If your not saved by Jesus Christ I suggest you get saved and live your life for him cause he is coming back and then this new world order will take effect. Jesus Christ is the only way out.

[Johnny Edwards]

See thats the whole thing. i have come to the conclusion through some pretty extensive research of my own after learning about it hat Lucifer is a name not applied to satan it totally knocks out a whole part of christianity that I learned growing up. Satan is Satan and was a liar from the beginning Lucifer is must a made up name that Jerome put into the Latin Vulgate which the translators of the KJV borrowed the term from. I mean I believe the rest of the Bible when I hear about the one world government being set up etc... because it does seem to be headed that way especially if the elite bankers have their way but anytime people start throwing the name Lucifer around it's just kinda turns me away because it in my opinion seems inaccurate. If you talk to some Hebrew scholars you will learn a tremendous amount about the translating of the Bible. I am already saved Justin and have been since I was 15.

[Johnny Edwards]

Also Robert a lot of what Bill says about Mason's just simply is not true and he mixes up a lot of his facts about the other stuff and his story overlaps itself in certain aspects. He multiple times contradicts himself about what happened in his past. It tends to make me believe he is exaggerating at the least and plain out lying at the worst. I think the truth is it's somewhere in the middle a little of both with some truth in there. I don't think one person could know completely the plan of what is going to happen except God. No man on this earth nor an angel in heaven.

I do believe that Isaiah ch. 14:12 was referring to king Nebby not the wrongly translated/interepreted name Lucifer. It seems to me God was mocking king Nebby because he thought he was a god himself.

[Robert Bishop]

that is one are i will disagree with you

and that is that some prophecy is duel
and it jumps from one point in history to another

what i mean is that a prophecy against Babylon could be for the time of Neb and then jump to prophecy against them in our time

all in the same chapter

i believe god could give a duel prophecy against a king and his god Satan like in Isa or Ezek 28

when Jesus was alive they complained because he spoke in parables instead of plainly

it is hard to take in everything Bill has to say
after watching 11hrs of youtube video of him and reading his book Lucifer Dethroned, i believe him, but that is just my opinion

to me low level masons discrediting him is a goofy waste of time because they dont know what the hell they are talking about concerning there own history IMO

i am not saying that about your info/sources because idk

i just know that he goes through the whole history of the masons, and 99% of masons dont seem to know most of it

[Robert Bishop]

by the way

in his book he had a pic of certificate he got while a 32degree mason

and i believe it was 1984 when he got out of it/25 years ago


but that could always be fake

here is another interesting vid by BILL Schnobelen


after the 32m mark hr does talk a little about the masons on this one

[Johnny Edwards]

Do and in depth study into Isaiah ch. 14:12 on the translation. You will learn a lot. I rarely take anything at face value anymore.

[Robert Bishop]

here is Bill talking more on becoming a mason at 29 min to thee end

and some into 3rd hr of 9

[Johnny Edwards]

Im really not so sure about the whole masons being evil thing anymore. I think that there are just bad people in general but doesn't for sure reflect as a whole. I think the Mason's as a whole are just a fraternity. I know all of the ones that I know are just normal people that have no secret agenda at all lol. Although I did have one mention something to me about how a group of people with one supreme leader to govern the others would be a great idea so then that made me wonder a little again

[Robert Bishop]

yep
and Bill says the same thing

maybe 1 in a 1,000 were Satanist like he was

interesting that he says the history books differ from what most masons think or are tought of some things

he also says that maybe 1 in a 1,000 actualy study their own history books that are available to them

but i could never be one and be a Christian at the same time

[Brent Norris]

I have personally spoken to BILL Schnobelen. But, it was about natural herbs, health, etc. When I called the number I was surprised that he answered and not an operator . I have watched a few of his vids. I have his book "Lucifer Dethroned".

[Johnny Edwards]

What was your opinion on what he says Brent??? I have found some things he says that contradict what he says. Could just be that he just had a faulty memory and said he was doing so and so at the wrong time. He could be telling the truth about everything and making up some things or he could be lying also he could be telling the full truth. Im not really sure what I think as a whole. Somewhere in the middle is my guess.