Gene Camp
Silver Member
Founder/ President New York Arm Wrestling Association
New York
Posts: 448
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Post by Gene Camp on Sept 11, 2012 5:46:23 GMT -5
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Post by Ian "The Grippler" Carnegie on Sept 11, 2012 7:47:59 GMT -5
Gene, I hope this doesnèt sound to cheezy but during 9-11 I was in college our teachers brought T.V. out in the hallways and we watched the news over and over again. Haveing spent much time in new port Vermont growing up where my Mother was born. I always felt close to the USA or rather I never really thought there was any difference between Canada and the USA. So when I saw the attack I droped out of school and joined the Army. My cousin beat me to Afghanistan. He served with the PPCLI and did several cave clearing missions in the mountains. He lost 4 men from his platoon. I followed him in 2003 I was stationed in Kabul at camp Julien. We lost three in our company two in my platoon. I would like to say how cool it was to talk to the US troops at camp Pheonix and the gratatude they showed us for being there. To me I thought of course we would be there. An attack on one is an attack on all. But then I remebered that The USA asked Canada to go to Iraq and we declined. That being said we would have as soldiers but our politicians decided to go with natoès stance on not supporting the mission to Iraq. I think this was a major error on the side of our government as Loyalty starts at home first and when crap hits the fan we as NorthAmericans will have to stand togather.
Gene thanks for the video God Bless America!
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Post by kyledarby on Sept 11, 2012 10:38:21 GMT -5
Ian you're a good man.
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Gene Camp
Silver Member
Founder/ President New York Arm Wrestling Association
New York
Posts: 448
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Post by Gene Camp on Sept 11, 2012 11:10:06 GMT -5
Thanks Ian! for sharing a very inspirational message and yet, sad story. We lost one our own NY arm wrestling members that day. Steven Cafiero Jr., 31, of Whitestone, Queens, NY.
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Post by Glenn Brooks on Sept 11, 2012 11:31:06 GMT -5
Thanks for the reminder, but it's no way I'll ever forget.
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Post by Chuck Barney on Sept 11, 2012 13:12:37 GMT -5
God Bless America!!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2012 19:46:45 GMT -5
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Post by Glenn Brooks on Sept 11, 2012 19:56:08 GMT -5
Somebody is full bull crap ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Sept 11, 2012 20:44:38 GMT -5
Popular Mechanics I believe tested some of those conspiracy theories and they were false. The physical parts anyways. The motives I believe can be questioned but I believe what happened actually happened. Terrorist hit those buildings killing innocent people. The war in Iraq may have been wrong but terrorist did attack us. Taking statements out of context is a conspiracy theorist favorite thing to do.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2012 20:45:06 GMT -5
Yeah Glenn your right, like all the stupid PhD's, Architects, Scientists, Doctors, Law Enforcement Officers, Veterans, Pilots, Professors, Engineers, Government Officials and experts in the areas of demolition, physics, chemistry, architecture, etc. Also these experts are all wrong: CREDIBLE CRITICS OF THE OFFICIAL ACCOUNT OF 9/11 220+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials
1,500+ Engineers and Architects
250+ Pilots and Aviation Professionals
400+ Professors Question 9/11
300+ 9/11 Survivors and Family Members
200+ Artists, Entertainers, and Media Professionals
400+ Medical Professionals
To read the testimonies of the experts listed above go to: www.patriotsquestion911.com/ But according to you they must be all wrong, but the reality is your argument is not with me, it is with all the experts first hand testimonies in the links I previously and am posting. The burden of proof is on you to prove them wrong, but you would rather just accuse me of being "Full of Bull Crap". How convenient, but don't the thousands that died deserve the truth to be told? Or at least to reopen the investigation on the official 911 Commission Report? I mean there are only 1500+ architects and engineers (plus over 12,000 other petitioners) begging the government for years to do this very thing. See: 911expertsspeakout.org/the_trailer.html There are also scores of their (the 911 casualties) family members that have petitioned our government for this to happen but they have been continually ignored. So are all those family members "full of bull crap" also? Also see below for a peer reviewed study of one aspect of 911 by 8 different scientists. Cause Of Destruction Of WTC Discovered: Active Thermite As disturbing as 9/11 was, the peer-reviewed paper of Dr. Niels Harrit of the University of Copenhagen is causing shockwaves around the world. In the paper, "Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe, Open Chemical Physics Journal, Vol. 2 (2009)," Dr. Harrit and eight other scientists from Denmark, the United States and Australia report the actual cause of the destruction of towers 1, 2 and 7 in New York almost eight years ago. Nano-thermite, a mixture of aluminum and rust powder, reacts to intense heat of 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit, producing molten iron and an effective explosion. It can be used as rocket fuel and contains more energy than dynamite. Over 10 tons have been estimated to have been found in Manhattan near the site. While thermite can be bought by anyone for welding (which produces iron), the nano process is performed by and for military uses only. www.newschief.com/article/20090812/NEWS/908125031/1014/OPINION?Title=Cause-of-destruction-of-WTC-discovered&tc=ar Twenty-five U.S. Military Officers Challenge Official Account of 9/11 – Official Account of 9/11 “Impossible”, “A Bunch of Hogwash”, “Ludicrous”, “A Well-Organized Cover-up”, “A White-Washed Farce” Jan. 14, 2008 Eight U.S. State Department Veterans Challenge the Official Account of 9/11 – Official Account of 9/11 "Flawed", "Absurd", "Totally Inadequate", "a Cover-up" Jan. 5, 2008 Seven Senior Federal Engineers and Scientists Call for New 9/11 Investigation – Official Account of 9/11 "Impossible", "Hogwash", "Fatally Flawed" Dec. 13, 2007 Eight Senior Republican Administration Appointees Challenge Official Account of 9/11 – "Not Possible", "a Whitewash", "False" Dec. 4, 2007 Seven CIA Veterans Challenge 9/11 Commission Report – Official Account of 9/11 a "Joke" and a "Cover-up" Sep. 23, 2007 For the specifics of the statements above go to: www.patriotsquestion911.com/Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials Question the 9/11 Commission Report Many well known and respected senior U.S. military officers, intelligence services and law enforcement veterans, and government officials have expressed significant criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report or have made public statements that contradict the Report. Several even allege government complicity in the terrible acts of 9/11. This website is a collection of their statements. It is not an organization and it should be made clear that none of these individuals are affiliated with this website. Listed in the link below are statements by more than 140 of these senior officials. Their collective voices give credibility to the claim that the 9/11 Commission Report is tragically flawed. These individuals cannot be simply dismissed as irresponsible believers in some 9/11 conspiracy theory. Their sincere concern, backed by their decades of service to their country, demonstrate that criticism of the Report is not irresponsible, illogical, nor disloyal, per se. In fact, it can be just the opposite. Demand a New 9/11 Investigation! www.patriotsquestion911.com/ |
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Sept 11, 2012 20:46:01 GMT -5
Good video Gene.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2012 21:04:56 GMT -5
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Sept 11, 2012 21:10:17 GMT -5
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Sept 11, 2012 21:15:11 GMT -5
I will read your links but I watched some of the test on tv also. The evidence for planes actually hitting are pretty solid whereas holographic images, or every single person that seen planes being brainwashed, to whatever else can be imagined up. I don't doubt there is some shady play in something such as this but I truly believe terrorist attacked us. Who those terrorist are I can't truly say for myself because one can never be sure of anything at all concerning reality because reality itself is fabricated for each person. There is a lot of assumptions on the conspiracy theory part though.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Sept 11, 2012 21:18:01 GMT -5
The best way to go about looking at evidence is objectively. Not blindly. So we DO need independent testing and trial and error test as to why the buildings collapsed but anything said is a theory as to the reasons why. It coulda been that the buildings weren't as strong as they were made out to be. It's kinda like the Titanic it was unsinkable right??? A little scrub with some ice shouldn't have done that. Not at all.....
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