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Post by TK on Jul 30, 2013 10:53:07 GMT -5
Really doesn't matter. I'm on a mission and I havr a list of guys that im after but after this weekend I can mark one off the list lol but many more to come! I do think opinion base brackets maybe more accurateif there's no favoritism LOL i'll base on facts brother. |
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Post by TK on Jul 30, 2013 10:56:57 GMT -5
If u get the last win on a guy that's what matters.. not anything else.. if that's the case then the whole ranking should be redone and every one that has worked there way up on a who beat who last should be taken off... how are u going to keep track of a 27 to 1 recored? With all the pullers.. sounds like a lot of work.. even a blind squirrel can get a nut every once in a while, it's about being consistant. now with that said....if someone solidly defeats someone in a challenge match? then the variables change (Aaron Blevins  ) with entrys lowering in the bigger events? it's time to these events start holding stock in the rankings. and the rankings may be re-done in august. nationals rankings will be based on wins and placing.....BOTH have to go together folks. TK |
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Post by TK on Jul 30, 2013 10:57:50 GMT -5
Really doesn't matter. I'm on a mission and I havr a list of guys that im after but after this weekend I can mark one off the list lol but many more to come! I do think opinion base brackets maybe more accurateif there's no favoritism LOL It would need to follow some sort of general consensus, but yes, opinions have to be a factor. It can't just be A beat B, but B beat C and C beat A, etc. Congrats on your win at AAA. I'm hoping to be able to pull some of the Bishop boys soon. somewhere...an opinion has to keep it realistic. |
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Post by TK on Jul 30, 2013 11:01:56 GMT -5
when AAA results get posted...I'll start readjusting the rankings...
I love debate!! and we'll get it right!!
I'm not promoting anymore guys so....i'm focusing on our SEC region.
State / regionals / nationals / challenge / special money classes
the smaller events.....sorry won't hold as much water as a bigger event.....
TK
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Post by user123 on Jul 30, 2013 11:22:41 GMT -5
maybe i shouldnt have said just AAA's.... requote....nationals...sorry. ALL nationals will be considered. Got it. John Toups and I are talking about the 176 class now. We have a few ideas based on recent results from this year. |
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Post by TK on Jul 30, 2013 11:28:26 GMT -5
maybe i shouldnt have said just AAA's.... requote....nationals...sorry. ALL nationals will be considered. Got it. John Toups and I are talking about the 176 class now. We have a few ideas based on recent results from this year. COOL. |
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Post by John Toups on Jul 30, 2013 13:47:33 GMT -5
We would almost need a full list of possible people. Maybe a list of 12? Then work on top 10 from there....
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Post by TK on Jul 30, 2013 16:01:50 GMT -5
We would almost need a full list of possible people. Maybe a list of 12? Then work on top 10 from there.... I WOULDN'T MIND HAVING MORE THAN 10 RANKED...I JUST DON'T WANT #15 BEING A GUY WHOSE ONLY WON ONE OPENS MATCH....LOL..... |
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Post by Tony (BIG DEDDY) Bishop on Jul 30, 2013 20:50:31 GMT -5
If u get the last win on a guy that's what matters.. not anything else.. if that's the case then the whole ranking should be redone and every one that has worked there way up on a who beat who last should be taken off... how are u going to keep track of a 27 to 1 recored? With all the pullers.. sounds like a lot of work.. for thought!!!! if I pull Chad Silvers and he fouls out do I take his spot??? no because I didn't beat him he beat himself!!! |
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Post by Jeremy Fraley on Jul 31, 2013 8:08:07 GMT -5
Top 5 regional is really all you need to rank, after that its a who has a better day on the table kind of rank.
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Post by TK on Aug 3, 2013 8:40:13 GMT -5
I LIKE TOP 10.
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Post by TK on Aug 3, 2013 9:16:25 GMT -5
OK GUYS. JUDGING. 1. WHO BEAT WHO (STILL FACTORS) WITHOUT THIS...HUNTING IS NOT AS FUN. 2. PTS SYTEMS (((((1. NATIONALS / 2. REGIONALS / 3. STATE (TITLES VS PLACING)))))) 3. ACTIVITY. WITH THESE 3 FACTORS, I THINK HELPS DECIDE MOVEMENT FORWARD AND BACKWARDS. 1. THE WHO BEAT WHO ....YES...BUT BASED ON A SET OF VARIABLES. 1. IF SOMEONE LOSES OUT ON FOULS? THEY WILL NOT LOSE THIER SPOT, BUT THAT PULLER WHO WON STILL GETS CREDIT AS A WIN. BECAUSE YES HE WON. BUT NOT WITH A PIN. 2. AND YES OVERALLS COUNT AS WINS AND LOSSES...SO IF YOU LOSE IN OVERALLS? YOU LOST....YOU DON'T WANT TO LOSE A RANK IN OVERALLS...DON'T PULL IT....LMAO. STOP USING EXCUSES THAT OVERALLS DON'T COUNT TO PUT DOWN THE OTHER GUYS "WIN"..... 3. YOU GOT CAUGHT UP IN A LONG MATCH, THEN YOU LOST? SORRY? LOSS IS A LOSS....DON'T CRY TO ME I WON'T LISTEN.....TRAIN HARDER.  4. IF YOU PULL A (CHALLENGE MATCH / ROUND ROBIN / SPECIAL TYPE) THEN YOU PULL THE REGULAR EVENT? YOU "WILL" NOT" LOSE YOUR SPOT, BUT THAT PERSON WHO BEATS YOU GETS RECONIZED FOR THAT WIN......YOU LOST.....DON'T CRY ABOUT IT.... 5. IF YOU WIN A STATE TITLE, REGIONALS, OR NATIONAL TITLE. THIS WILL PUT YOU HIGHER IN THE RANKINGS. (MASTERS CLASSES "NO")(IT'S NOT THE YOUNG GUYS FAULT YOU'RE TOO OLD) LMAO..AND PLACING IN THE EVENTS ARE CONSIDERED TOO. I WILL ALSO APPLY A LIGHT / MIDDLE / HEAVY / RANK.....THIS WILL HELP MULTIPLE CLASS PULLING PULLERS GET THIER RANKS. 154-176 LIGHT / 198-220 MIDDLE / 242-242+ HEAVY 1. ACTIVITY? PLAIN AND SIMPLE....YOU HOLD THAT SPOT YOUVE EARNED, IF YOURE NOT PULLING? AT LEAST WITHIN A 5-6 MONTH SPAN....YOU WILL START FALLING....DOESN'T MATTER "WHO" YOU ARE....YOU HAVE TO "DEFEND" YOUR SPOT. 2. INJURY? YOU SHOULD OFFER YOURSELF TO BE PUT OUT FOR INACTIVITY. YOU CAN'T DEFEND YOUR SPOT WHILE INJURED. NOTHING PERSONAL. BUT TRUE. 3. OUR ELITE HEROES HAVE TO PULL WITHIN OUR REGION AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR.....WE CAN'T CHASE THEM ALL OVER THE NATION.... ABOVE ALL? I NEED HONEST RESULTS FROM THE PULLERS. DATE. NAME OF EVENT. WHO YOU BEAT AND YOUR WIN-LOSS VS THAT PULLER. LET'S DO IT GUYS! |
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Post by Bruce Ronquille Jr on Aug 3, 2013 9:30:28 GMT -5
Seems fair enough to me
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Post by user123 on Aug 3, 2013 9:33:08 GMT -5
I put this in the 176 thread last week, but here are my results for 2013:
Wins (RH): Ron Klemba, Bill Ballinger, Gary Kessler, Jon Brown, Sam Harris, Travis Earp, Bill Caldwell, Jamie Fortenberry, Ricky Williams, Richard Gough.
Losses (RH): Ron Klemba, Anthony Snook, Junior Hostler.
Placing (RH): 2nd @ USAA Nationals 2013, 2nd @ Sitdown Nationals 2013
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Post by Erick "Zap" Szczap on Aug 5, 2013 15:34:43 GMT -5
So wait, you need everyone to submit their own results?
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