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Post by Denise Wattles on Apr 16, 2014 8:44:36 GMT -5
From the 80's: Clay Rosencranz Ray Taglione Allen Crowder George Givens Terry Shapiro Gerry Beaudry Johnny Walker Allen Fisher Kim Edwards John Buonato
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Las Botha
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Post by Las Botha on Apr 16, 2014 13:11:57 GMT -5
How about a top 5? Larratt, Amolins, Brzenk, Terzi. No particular order. The stories surrounding Matyushenko though... It's tough to say dominance vs perceived skill.
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Post by David Owens on Apr 17, 2014 0:33:37 GMT -5
#2 Ron Bath- if there was never a John it would have been Pulling Ron.
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Post by Steve Inzalaco on Apr 18, 2014 11:36:41 GMT -5
Gary Goodridge John Brzenk Jason Vale Patton Dave Hicks Cobra Walker Cleve Fisher Rosecrans
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Post by Steve Inzalaco on Apr 18, 2014 11:36:57 GMT -5
Gary Goodridge John Brzenk Jason Vale Patton Dave Hicks Cobra Walker Cleve Fisher Rosecrans
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Post by Joe Dimino on Apr 18, 2014 14:43:00 GMT -5
Travis and Devon have to be on the list because of their ability to dominate with either hand.
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Post by Scott STB Mathews on Apr 19, 2014 0:18:34 GMT -5
Don't forget Steve Phipps 19 time World Champion 47 National titles. The man armwrestled 7 times with a broken wrist to win the 2008 World title.....Now that is a will to win!!! Hopefully my stats are correct.
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Post by Casey Szparaga on Apr 19, 2014 11:15:24 GMT -5
#1 I saw Brzenk in person the first time in USAA Nationals in Lake Tahoe, he mowed over like 6 classes having never had a good match. Even not knowing much about armwrestling I knew this guy was something legandary. I didn't realize at the time he would for more than 25 years he would do just that. #1 is easily the Perfect Storm John Brzenk I saw that too. More than once. Only time he struggled was with Woefel 1 minute after Cadorette.
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Post by Casey Szparaga on Apr 19, 2014 11:25:12 GMT -5
I think the easiest way to do it is to start with the undisputable ones where there is is really no argument and then debate the next few to see who would get in. Really, only a few slots left.
I would very much like to John B. and Mr. Fishers opinions.
Top 20 would be easier, but I would start with the obvious and then add.
In no order:
1-Brzenk 2-Fisher 3-Patton 4-Rhodes 5-Bath 6-Jones
I know there are a lot of others, Babayev, Terzi,etc..
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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Apr 20, 2014 6:57:47 GMT -5
These lists have been TRIED, and since we r in the US,and most do NOT know The history of NOT only US AWing, BUT the World many NEWER Pullers will pick only recent pullers.So since this thread is US dominant here is a US list...
Cleve JB Johnny Walker cobra Ron Bath AL TURNER Dave Patton John Bounanto (sp?) George Givens clay Rosencrantz/ Allan Fisher
HONORABLE MENTION Micheal Todd Jerry Cadorette Marcio B Richard Lupkes Ray Taglione ****Travis B...LEFT NO DOUBT. And if he never injured his Right and had surgery, I BELIEVE,well I KNOW he would be up top. He has only one WAF title, and has beaten many of the best Europeans, yet has lost to the same and others he shouldn't have, whether it was strategic or not..
DAMN, FOR GOT THE GREAT DAVE RANDALL, AND Tim Bresnan
GEEZ, I FORGOT TO ADD MOE BAKER.
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Post by John Roberts on Apr 20, 2014 8:53:21 GMT -5
Gary HAS to be on this list as well as Richard.
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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Apr 20, 2014 12:49:18 GMT -5
John, Canada, I think u would put on there to start
Gary G, Mike Gould Earl Wilson Ryan Espey Devon L Sylvain Perron Denis Dubriel George Aaron Lengyl Troy Eaton Dave Hicks AND Luke Reimer, would've been a multi World Champion AND more, if not for his religious convictions
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Post by David Owens on Apr 22, 2014 2:11:39 GMT -5
#3 " If I'm not the man I wanna meet him!" Travis Bagent is truly a modern day Ali and can beat any human on any given day. All his antics would just be fluff if not for the fact that he can back up every word. Best left hand of all time is enough to give him the #3 spot but I'm interested in hearing from anyone who wouldn't put him that high and why.
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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Apr 22, 2014 4:30:20 GMT -5
#3 " If I'm not the man I wanna meet him!" Travis Bagent is truly a modern day Ali and can beat any human on any given day. All his antics would just be fluff if not for the fact that he can back up every word. Best left hand of all time is enough to give him the #3 spot but I'm interested in hearing from anyone who wouldn't put him that high and why. If the question is to me too since I did not add him to an ALL TIME list is not all pulled left most pulled right or where more dominate right then left and that could be because AWing started off just right handed, and of course most in the world are right handed...and although some on that list pulled left too and were also dominate.... Travis was only really dominate with both for a short period of time, BEFORE HIS INJURY AND SURGERY.. IF NOT for that IF he stayed dominate with the right like with the left then of course he could be considered... But by me forgetting Moe Baker, or Max B would have excluded him, ONLY BECAUSE OF HIS INJURY... Not saying u Dave, but like in MLB, and other sports, U r seeing pros in those sports not knowing history. There are MLBers, who don't even know who Babe Ruth is, or Lou Gehrig..... And let's not compare apples to oranges and say that guys today r better the this in the past..look at pics of Moe Baker, or Max B, or even Cleve, in his day, or even John Bounanato and give THEM the training, the supplements and " supplements", and see what they would've been like.. AGAIN, IF THERE IS AN ALL TIME LEFT, TRAVIS IS AT THE TOP IN BOLD LETTERS,
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Post by Anthony Snook on Apr 22, 2014 9:46:38 GMT -5
"supplements and "supplements",..."
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