6 doping tests positive at the Europeans

[Willy Deneumostier]

EDUARD MULLAGULOV junior -55 kg first right hand
MURAT KARAJEV left hand senior -85 kg second place
UMARBEK SHAKMANOV right hand senior 80 kg first
CHERMEN HADAJEV senior right hand first second left hand -90 kg
VALERIJ KOSTANOV senior right hand second third left hand -85 kg
BORIS POSKA senior right hand third +110 kg

[Willy Deneumostier]

you can find the full results of eaf championship 2006 in www.brasdefer.be results

[Sharon Remez]

Hi Willy,
Does it mean that i get first place insted of CHERMEN KHADAJEV senior right hand first second left hand -90 kg ?
Thanks

[enginterzi]

willydeneumostier said:

EDUARD MULLAGULOV junior -55 kg first right hand
MURAT KARAJEV left hand senior -85 kg second place
UMARBEK SHAKMANOV right hand senior 80 kg first
CHERMEN HADAJEV senior right hand first second left hand -90 kg
VALERIJ KOSTANOV senior right hand second third left hand -85 kg
BORIS POSKA senior right hand third +110 kg

correct,except UMARBEK SHAKMANOV has taken 1. place with left arm in 80 kg class.

[enginterzi]

Sharon,

i know you asked to Willy but yes you will take 1. place instead of Khadaev if his B sample also tests positive.

last year Scott Fleming took 2. place in the Japan worlds behind Klimenko but Scott won the title after Klimenko failed at the doping test.so you will be the EAF champion if the final result comes with Khadaev tested positive.

[Rick Pinkney]

Simon,

I know you have a problem with cold medications, however it was a well known fact here in the Great White North that hockey players would use over-the-counter cold medication as an "up" before a game. With their grueling schedule most of the players were taking this. It really came to light before the Olympics when players were advised that it would get them a positive test.

[Pascal Girard]

U see even Junior Kids are "under"

[Andy 'wiSë™' Barker]

when will the offending 'substances' be published? I bet they aren't cold remedies!

Looks like 4 of these guys are from the same club! [(RSO-Alaniya) - Engin is that correct?]

[enginterzi]

yes Andy,you are correct.four of the 6 positive tested (at B samples) athletes are from the same region and probably from the same team.

[Pascal Girard]

i d like to see if all the positive tests r the same substance or not....

[Bob Brown]

willydeneumostier said:

EDUARD MULLAGULOV junior -55 kg first right hand
MURAT KARAJEV left hand senior -85 kg second place
UMARBEK SHAKMANOV right hand senior 80 kg first
CHERMEN HADAJEV senior right hand first second left hand -90 kg
VALERIJ KOSTANOV senior right hand second third left hand -85 kg
BORIS POSKA senior right hand third +110 kg

d) If an athlete is found to test positive, WAF has the right to scrutinize their host country’s armwrestling program and officials for infractions against drug abuse. Countries found guilty of doping will be given a warning for a first offence; second offence will be disqualification from the event in question and third offence will be three year suspension from any WAF sanctioned event.



Since all are from Russia. Willy would you consider this a program problem?

[Willy Deneumostier]

be quiet on this matter guys.
We need to know what they are doing with the B samples. They have the choice to request this B samples analyses but nobody is dupe by this;
We know the names of the substances they take but we need to keep it secret as request by the procedure.
As I said yesterday, it is no create by the body.
The medical committe need to know also the dosing in their samples after analyses. We will receive the full analyses by post mail tomorrow from the Hungarian doping committe normally and will be examine by our Belgium doctor involved in doping OC .
Wait and see Everyone will be inform when the time will come.
best regards Willy Hope to see you all in Manchester

[simon]

rick said:

Simon,

I know you have a problem with cold medications, however it was a well known fact here in the Great White North that hockey players would use over-the-counter cold medication as an "up" before a game. With their grueling schedule most of the players were taking this. It really came to light before the Olympics when players were advised that it would get them a positive test.

OK and? Most cold medications are narcotic and not an "up" a coke and a candy bar is a better up.

No self respecting strength sport athlete cares about cold medication, any athlete that is still going to suck it up and compete with a cold deserves to be able to take cold medicine, this is just how stupid and self involved WADA is.

[simon]

willydeneumostier said:

be quiet on this matter guys.
We need to know what they are doing with the B samples. They have the choice to request this B samples analyses but nobody is dupe by this;
We know the names of the substances they take but we need to keep it secret as request by the procedure.
As I said yesterday, it is no create by the body.
The medical committe need to know also the dosing in their samples after analyses. We will receive the full analyses by post mail tomorrow from the Hungarian doping committe normally and will be examine by our Belgium doctor involved in doping OC .
Wait and see Everyone will be inform when the time will come.
best regards Willy Hope to see you all in Manchester

Excuse me Willie!? Be quiet about this?!!!!

Maybe you should have done a better job of administrating the policy that comes with the WADA warclub you seem so hell bent on waving over you head... then the information would not have been out to the public before it was complete.

If this sport keeps going down this path I assure you the last thing I will be doing is being quite.

[enginterzi]

but Simon,

Willy had to inform Russian federation about positive results and Russian federation did let the public to know about this info not Willy,dont you think so?