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Post by Mark Evans on May 1, 2007 10:50:14 GMT -5
I have watched Steve do them. He uses a thick bar that is a tractor part.
Steve are you going to Tahoe?
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Post by enginterzi on May 1, 2007 10:57:33 GMT -5
thanks for the info Steve! btw,that weight that you curl is very impressive.
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Post by BigDaddyJoe™ on May 1, 2007 11:08:40 GMT -5
Bottom line, pic is either really really fake, with some foam weights or that guy is on a double dosage of the good stuff
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Post by Neil Pickup on May 1, 2007 11:25:01 GMT -5
Hi Guys, Engin & Steve you are both correct I did use over 400lbs before my injury as part of an increasing pyramid which would start with 90kg (198lbs) rep til failure & progressively increase the weight with each set. The heaviest weight I used for this exercise at the top of my game was 260kg (572lbs) at a body weight of 90kg, this was on a padded wrist curling bench with the wrist hanging over the edge of the bench from the middle of the back of my hands. The wrist would go slightly past straight but only slightly then would be flexed fully in & up as far as the wirist was able to bend before repeating the movement to failure. I used a special Thick handled barbell which utilized a scaffold tube for the handle (approx. 2.5 - 3 inches in diameter). I trained this exercise over a 10 year period to reach this level & was always taught that allowing the wrist to be broken back a long way past straight (ie. into an open wrist position) was deterimental to the object of this exercise as it would stretch and weaken the tendons and ligaments of the wrist The lifts we performed were in any case far stricter than those performed by the lad on this clip who uses a lot of momentum from his calves which assists the lift greatly. We were static on a bench.............NO SWINGING & NO ASSISTANCE from other body parts Never actually saw anyone else able to do it however those guys who trained very closely with me over many years on the exercise also got to a very high level, Paul Maiden was closest to achieving it with 230kg (506lbs) at the top of his pyramid, Andy Barker reached 200kg (440lbs) at his best with a body weight of 80kg. Like anything else really, if you have a high degree of natural ability & you train it obsessively you get good at it......... Cheers Fat Lad Esq.
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Post by Neil Pickup on May 1, 2007 11:30:45 GMT -5
ps. I am Fat &................CLEAN !!! Now since my operation I take CNP Professional's Whey Protein BioTest's Tribex (Tribulous) Cod Liver Oil 1000mg. At the time I did these wrist curls I payed almost no attention to suppliments & took NOTHING AT ALL !!! Just drank milk by the litre, ate Chicken, Tuna, Wholemeal Bread Pasta and Steak Cheers Fat Lad Esq.
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Post by Mat Helmer on May 1, 2007 19:58:45 GMT -5
Why does everyone use a false grip (no thumb)? I think not using the thumb around the bar, makes the curl easier. The weight starts out heavy (100%) when it is out near the fingers but as it is allowed to "roll" down the hand and onto the wrist area, it gets lighter (75%) as your leverage goes up. I think a pure wrist curl should be with forearms flat on a bench, wrists at least 2 inches off the end, thumbs completely around the bar, hands completely closed in fists throughout the curl and the curl goes from parallel to floor - full bend down - back to parallel. I myself have been guilty of an assist from the knees, on the last rep or two but I use a standard 1" bar and use both thumbs. The bar does not travel back and forth across my hands, only down, then up. P.S. The 400 pound curl is still impressive though.
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Post by Dan Fortuna on May 1, 2007 20:39:49 GMT -5
I say lets have a contest!!! You can count me in on it. Any weight single arm or double. Long bar or dumbbell. Thick or thin handle !!!!
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Post by STEVE PHIPPS on May 1, 2007 21:50:54 GMT -5
Dan,
Great idea! Maybe we have a WORLD WRISTCURL CHAMPIONSHIP following the World Armwrestling Championship.
Could be very entertaining! ;D
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Post by Luke Eldridge on May 1, 2007 22:39:38 GMT -5
i would take part in something like that. would be fun
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Post by Rob Baker on May 2, 2007 7:55:33 GMT -5
A true wrist curl to me is from top to bottom , not that I am saying half reps are an improper way of training Im just saying there is alot of variables when doing any exercise , like when you see somebody at the gym and they have 405 lb on the bench but there only coming down half way most people on this board would probably not count that as a legitament bench press. So if there was a strict wrist curl competion I dont think you would see these ridiculously high numbers. And as far as someone saying going all the way down on a wrist curl being bad for arm wrestling I know first hand that is not true when I first started competing I could only do a pathetic 50lb wrist curl w/ one arm all the way down once, and i have been doing nothing but full range the whole time and now after 4-5 years I am doing 90lbs for about 10 reps ALL THE WAY DOWN and I am now stopping a lot of people from rolling my hand out that I never thought I would.
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Post by Scott Latella on May 2, 2007 8:08:22 GMT -5
I will not comment on his tech because my views are worth 0%. But if you want a true test of wrist curl power you can do them on a standing preacher curl bench (spotters are a must) and then do them with the weight truly in your hands/fingers and wrist.
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Post by Florian Kellersmann on May 2, 2007 8:39:57 GMT -5
Neil, thanks for the insight in your training. Those are some very impressive numbers, thanks for sharing! Flo
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Post by Neil Pickup on May 2, 2007 15:39:42 GMT -5
Thankyou Flo just wish my injury hadn't stopped me working with the heavier weights these days mate, regardless of exercise I used to love working the high intensity stuff ya know. Still there is time yet I am definately improving slowly but surely climbing back to fitness & still hungry for the sport Neil
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