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Post by Steve Kirlew on Dec 16, 2004 12:45:08 GMT -5
Craig Sanders said he's stayin at 70kg now because it wasn't that hard.
Engin, did you get invited to this competition?
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Post by Christopher Myers on Dec 16, 2004 13:00:38 GMT -5
It would be worth the trip just to watch !!! I would not want to pull Rustam and I have 40 lbs on him that boy was fearsome to watch in poland....video just does not do it justice
Christopher Myers
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Post by Charlie Minell on Dec 16, 2004 16:40:07 GMT -5
Ivanov??? Charlie,please check what place Ivanov took in the last europeans.i really dont think he was in top 6. Engin, I heard that Ivanov got a great start against Rustam at the last European, and had him on his side of the table, but he lost with two fouls. Did you see that match? (left handed) |
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Post by enginterzi on Dec 17, 2004 6:27:44 GMT -5
Charlie,this match was with right arm and Miroslav's elbow were off from the back of the pad as far as i saw.i feel like we all adore Rustam by thinking that its great that somebody did stop him even by armwrestling out of rules.with his left arm (the one that you mentioned)he lost to my friend Tuncay easily,he also lost to Tuncay with right too again easily.his second lost with his left was against a 73kg guy in 80kg class.i know he is good but has no chance against Rustam.
one last thing,he stopped Rustam when Rustam was 1 or 2 inches far to beat him by pulling his elbow off,this s what i remember.and they havent met with left arm.Rustam won easier with his left than his right.
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Post by enginterzi on Dec 17, 2004 6:35:25 GMT -5
come on Christopher,im sure that even if he beats you it would be so hard.i would give both of you same chance.but still amazing from his side to have chance of winning against a guy at your level and weight.
Steve,yes i was invited to this tournament.i didnt go there because of my injuries,some problems with our federation,my weight (72kg now) and because i dont wanna pull Rustam when i had so many disadvantage that gives me no chance to beat him.i know what i can do and what i cant do.better stay at home and go up step by step.
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Post by Olin Lucas on Dec 17, 2004 8:50:04 GMT -5
Craig??? please Olin ???you must be drunk or upset ;Dthere are some serious physical facts my friend.do you remember Ozgur?i guess he pulled you and Craig both,he also won 1. place easily in Canada worlds even beating Crazy George without NO competetion.Rustam beat Ozgur so bad that i just cant explain how without making you all feel like you are watching a scary movie. No I am serious, not drunk nor am I upset.  Ozgur beat Craig in Italy when Craig was still killing himself to make 143 That was a very controversial match too. No offense to you or any other team members, but if Ozgur still weighs the same as Craig he does not stand a chance. I pull with Craig every week and I know what he is capable of. You ask anyone here in the states what they think about Craig. I honeslty think that there is noone here in the U.S. under 176lbs who can beat him, and very few in the 187lb or 198lb class. Engin I am not trying to argue with you, but I think that if anyone at 165lb or 171lb can even compete with Rustam it will be Tullier. Mark my words  Look what he did to the Russian in Brazil. Talk to you later, Olin |
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Post by Zhanna Chingule on Dec 17, 2004 11:19:03 GMT -5
;D Go Go Rustam! Rustam Nr.1 And silver goes to...Cvetan And bronze I hope goes to Aleh from Belarus  |
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Post by Olin Lucas on Dec 17, 2004 11:35:30 GMT -5
Uh oh we have some more Europen supporters in here! ;D
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Post by enginterzi on Dec 17, 2004 13:09:59 GMT -5
ok Olin,
i will try to be very detailing to make you understand things.first of all,Ozgur is 6.2 tall and you are writing about how hard it was for Craig to lose weight down to 143.come on think about how Ozgur went down to 143 with 6.2 standing:).
second of all i have wrestled both Craig and Rustam and there is no way.but you never touched Rustam's hand at where you took 5. place in our class.
third,the russian that Craig beat took out of top 4 in Russian nationals this year.so try to change you idea of ''every Russian is a monster''.im not blaming you for not knowing or thinking of these clear facts,im just trying to help you understand.
the only thing that you say is what you guess which doesnt make anything to do with facts.the Russian team in Brazil was the WEAKEST RUSSIAN TEAM i have EVER knOWN.
believe me that i have many friends that get satisfaction by guessing,thinking and talking.but none of these didnt help them to win even one world title.the guys that you talk by underestimating have many world and european titles.like Rustam,he won 4 worlds and 5 european titles since 2002,he did this even he didnt compete 2003 worlds.
i hope soon you will realise that world is not turning around Lousiana,and the guys you think is a..hole may not be as bad as you judge without knowing them.
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Post by enginterzi on Dec 17, 2004 13:11:40 GMT -5
today i spoke with Niyazi by the phone and he told me that everybody weighed 78kg(171)except Sanders and Gashevski.Sanders was 74kg and Gashevski was 76kg.
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Post by Olin Lucas on Dec 17, 2004 16:43:51 GMT -5
I never made any statements saying that the world did revolve around Louisiana. I've never thought that either, you are misunderstanding what I am trying to say. I never said Craig would beat Rustam. What I did say was that if there is anyone 75kg or 78kg who could give him a match right now it would be Craig. I am using previous tournaments that Craig competed in as some type of proof of his strength. He has beaten Crazy George at 2/3 tournaments atleast once, and beat Silvers last year at the Show of Strength when he was only weighing around 160lbs. Now he weighs nearly 170lbs now and is much stronger because of his weight gain. He just won the 209lb class in Florida this past weekend. If I am not mistaken the last time you pulled Craig was in Virginia Beach, and his strength is much more intense now than before. You have to take those kinds of things into consideration. I never underestimated Rustam like you say, especially after he beat you in Italy. I was extremely surprised he beat you then, and still am. As far as me thinking you are an a-hole, just forget about that. I mentioned that in the other post that I had made a mistake by saying that, so do not feel insulted by that. I hope you accept my apology.
Take care,
Olin
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Post by enginterzi on Dec 18, 2004 6:26:24 GMT -5
yes Olin,and no:).by only knowing how Craig feels now,can you really believe that he can beat anyone except Rustam?i wrote this because you sounded like Craig is the only one that have chance against Rustam.when i beat Craig i had the worst right arm condition ever.im telling you the truth.and it was so easy. in Italy Ozgur beat Craig in an eye blink but ref gave Ozgur an elbow foul,then Craig got a foul at ref grip,Ozgur was afraid to get another foul and he just waited Craig to make his move first then Craig hit him but Ozgur's arm didnt even move and this caused Craig's elbow to raise from the pad.and he lost.in the final Craig hit him again Ozgur just held him for two seconds then easily pinned him. i and Craig have pulled 4 times in same class and i took 1. place in all of them,he took once 2.,once 4.,once 5.,and other one i dont think he placed.two of them were right and other two were left hand classes.im sure that he feels much stronger than before,but believe me Rustam is not from this earth:).its easier to beat him inside than outside because of his crushing hands.and Craig would try to toproll him  .i say that A HEALTHY COBRA AND A GOOD SHAPED SHARON REMEZ has chance against Rustam with an outside move. in last year's worlds in canada,Ozgur beat George in an eye blink or faster,in 2002 worlds in springfield Dursun beat George twice in a second.interesting thing is that before Ozgur beat George he pulled in my class at our nationals and i beat him in a second.and ask me if i can beat Rustam :(no way :(what im trying to tell you is that i dont think that you can know how the others feel before you know how strong they are.i and Ozgur have beat both you and Craig before but i never say that we can do the same next time.but you sound like there is no one that can beat Craig except Rustam.its not right thing to publish on this board.i write about what i did but not what i will do,because i dont know the future.about a..hole subject,i already forgot.so we all are friends. |
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Post by enginterzi on Dec 18, 2004 12:28:51 GMT -5
i guess i was wrong more than 9matches.
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Post by Charlie Minell on Dec 18, 2004 16:05:27 GMT -5
Charlie,this match was with right arm and Miroslav's elbow were off from the back of the pad as far as i saw.i feel like we all adore Rustam by thinking that its great that somebody did stop him even by armwrestling out of rules.with his left arm (the one that you mentioned)he lost to my friend Tuncay easily,he also lost to Tuncay with right too again easily.his second lost with his left was against a 73kg guy in 80kg class.i know he is good but has no chance against Rustam. one last thing,he stopped Rustam when Rustam was 1 or 2 inches far to beat him by pulling his elbow off,this s what i remember.and they havent met with left arm.Rustam won easier with his left than his right. Ok, thanks! |
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Post by Neil Pickup on Dec 20, 2004 17:49:40 GMT -5
Guys I have gotta get in on this one !!! Whilst I agree that Babyev is stronger than a Garlic flavored Yeti's Breath........... I would like to go on record as saying that an in form mid 1990's Cobra would have peeled his hand like a banana and simply torn his tits off !!! Rustam is SICK strong and that is not in doubt, he is also a bloody nice guy but its easy to make people into bigger Legands than the Lock Ness monster by talking on websites !!! He is a man and as such his power IS restricted by the laws of ARMWRESTLING PHYSICS  ;D Oh Yes............ the law states  "all twisty strong Bastards are at some point in their moment subject to and restricted by an Equal and Opposite Twisty Strong Bastard pulling approximately a Bee's tit harder in the other direction......on their brightest sunshining day !!!" As a real life Fat Professor of Armwrestling Physics studying at the Royal FREAK SHOP University in North West England I believe this statement to be wholey founded and as true as Eggs are Eggs.......... SO FLUFFIN HAVE IIIIIIITTTTTTT !!!! ;D ;D ;D Regards Fat Lad Esq. |
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Ozgur beat Craig in Italy when Craig was still killing himself to make 143 That was a very controversial match too. No offense to you or any other team members, but if Ozgur still weighs the same as Craig he does not stand a chance. I pull with Craig every week and I know what he is capable of. You ask anyone here in the states what they think about Craig. I honeslty think that there is noone here in the U.S. under 176lbs who can beat him, and very few in the 187lb or 198lb class. Engin I am not trying to argue with you, but I think that if anyone at 165lb or 171lb can even compete with Rustam it will be Tullier. Mark my words 
Look what he did to the Russian in Brazil. 
.i say that A HEALTHY COBRA AND A GOOD SHAPED SHARON REMEZ has chance against Rustam with an outside move.
;D 