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Post by enginterzi on Dec 23, 2004 14:36:06 GMT -5
Fadzinov s a guy with a tremendous hook power.once he stops you you are in damn trouble.just forget about winning.he beat taras in 2002 europeans.he lost in the final but taras had one of his hardest day ever.
fadzinov also killed semerenko in 2001 worlds.he is so strong.
yes,Klimenko has chance against John even not very much.
Maxim fore sure is one of the best in -90kg.
Zhanna,i agree with you about Klimenko will beat even Voevoda one day.
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Post by enginterzi on Dec 23, 2004 14:40:51 GMT -5
Simon,i believe that last time Maxim has lost was in 2001 worlds against Cvetan Gashevski.
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Post by enginterzi on Dec 23, 2004 15:30:52 GMT -5
Cobra,fadzinov was the only guy that stopped you in 1999 worlds in russia,i saw the tape and he gave you a hard match.the move that you did against him should be taught to the all armwrestlers in the world except Brzenk,as a lesson.you were so amazing by getting your shoulder behind your hand.you really are COBRA.my hat was just off to you once again.fadzinov was only 17 years old then.even at that age he was already shinning.6 months later he became european champion in senior class.then in 2001 worlds he got his first world title where he won against niyazi and semerenko(after incredible battles).then he beat and sent taras to the losers bracket in 2002 europeans but lost to him twice in the final after dog fights.taras just couldnt toproll him,and this s how he lost to fadzinov at the 1. match.but he a dragging type of style and beat him from his bicep direction where he is weak,but still took long enough to be remembered.
i have never seen anybody that toprolled fadzinov.in same year that he lost to taras he went to egypt worlds,but taras was smart enough to jump in higher class:).so they both won world titles in different classes.he is just too dangerous for a toproller.so ,sorry Cobra:).
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Post by enginterzi on Dec 23, 2004 16:00:01 GMT -5
Charlie, bongard and fadzinov would be a match that would probably take a few tears to end:).the interesting thing about fadzinov is that he beats most of his opponents (doesnt really matter if they are very strong or not)after long matches.but he easily beats a guy who trys to toproll him,because his hand easily puts them out of position.Christian Guatta probably had his strongest time when he pulled against fadzinov.a year before their match,guatta almost pinned niyazi in 2001 worlds as their 1. round match.niyazi was damn strong then,he lost to fadzinov after a long match by fouling out.and took 3.place because he also lost to semerenko after that long match.niyazi beat semerenko twice before.
no disrespect,michael selerais has no chance against fadzinov.in 2003 zloty,ionescu pulled against fadzinov in their class.we all know how good ionescu toprolls,but fadzinov hooked him as i have seen their pic.even bath couldnt hook ionescu at last zloty.its easier to beat him in strap and with an outside move as andreas,golemanov and gashevski easily did to him even they were much lighter than ionescu.
Christian Binnie,actualy Klimenko was only 16 when he won golds with both hands in springfield worlds.two years after that time he still pulled and won junior europeans and worlds in this year.
Sol,klimenko is only 18.just believe me that every second its becoming harder for taras to beat klimenko.taras is a great puller and he may win against klimenko again.but this guy is just getting stronger day by day.his bones will be much stronger after a few years.he may be pulling in a heavier class in next year because he is tall enough to be a heavyweight in a few years.
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Post by Bad Draw Rhodes on Dec 23, 2004 17:12:11 GMT -5
Cobra,fadzinov was the only guy that stopped you in 1999 worlds in russia,i saw the tape and he gave you a hard match.the move that you did against him should be taught to the all armwrestlers in the world except Brzenk,as a lesson.you were so amazing by getting your shoulder behind your hand.you really are COBRA.my hat was just off to you once again.fadzinov was only 17 years old then.even at that age he was already shinning.6 months later he became european champion in senior class.then in 2001 worlds he got his first world title where he won against niyazi and semerenko(after incredible battles).then he beat and sent taras to the losers bracket in 2002 europeans but lost to him twice in the final after dog fights.taras just couldnt toproll him,and this s how he lost to fadzinov at the 1. match.but he a dragging type of style and beat him from his bicep direction where he is weak,but still took long enough to be remembered. i have never seen anybody that toprolled fadzinov.in same year that he lost to taras he went to egypt worlds,but taras was smart enough to jump in higher class:).so they both won world titles in different classes.he is just too dangerous for a toproller.so ,sorry Cobra:). Engin, Where can I find the video? I need to learn. ;D AND Christian Binnie,actualy Klimenko was only 16 when he won golds with both hands in springfield worlds.two years after that time he still pulled and won junior europeans and worlds in this year. I meet this Klimenko in Springfield. UNREAL
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Post by Sol "Arm and Hammer"Ingram on Dec 23, 2004 20:54:18 GMT -5
Engin..Cobra I like your take on this match up.. If the europeons come here on our territory, do you think they would still pull well. We go over to Russia or other countries, and sometimes that is not to our advantage. They come here..maybe we would kick some butts? Cobra you will have to M.C this one..you tha Man on and off the table!! Sol
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Post by enginterzi on Dec 24, 2004 13:18:36 GMT -5
Sol,what s the difference of being on your territory?Americans did very well in Zloty tourney even it wasnt their territory.but believe me that if you make an invitational tourney by inviting only the top guys,any body will have chance to win.because the levels of the competitors will be close to eachother's.
Cobra,my friend has it,but Gary Ray used to sell them.ask him,if not i will try to make a copy for you and bring it with when i will try to beat you.
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Post by Sol "Arm and Hammer"Ingram on Dec 24, 2004 14:03:45 GMT -5
Engin,,, I guess what i was meaning to say was, Sometimes when a person goes to a champions "hometown" to try and win..The crowd really motivates it's Favorite! I know you are a very Intense puller and yes even without hometown crowd , you are awesome, but with them..you are really awesome.. That is what i was trying to say. I know all did their Best in zloty and we are all proud of them, but Now let's have our own... there was a sports saying.."Not in our House" .. Thanks Engin...
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Post by enginterzi on Dec 24, 2004 14:10:47 GMT -5
yes Sol,
i have written the same thing that you mentioned at one of my posts that its europeans turn to compete in northamerica.but only a very high level tourney can bring them to US.which is money:).thanks for your kind words.there are better ones for sure till i prove otherwise.
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Post by Sol "Arm and Hammer"Ingram on Dec 24, 2004 14:38:11 GMT -5
I know it will take a Big Event to get them here, and usually that means money. But even if you have good money..you need..Brzenk. Bath Terzi,Girdner, Bagent, Silvers, Selarius and all of rest of Great pullers! They are what really turns an ordinary event into a Superstar Event. I want to see what kind of money would be expected.. i dont know how much was up for grabs for our guys to go to zloty. I also liked the way Can/Ams tourny went.. we go there...they come here! Thats good.
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Post by Bad Draw Rhodes on Dec 24, 2004 14:48:55 GMT -5
Sol,what s the difference of being on your territory?Americans did very well in Zloty tourney even it wasnt their territory.but believe me that if you make an invitational tourney by inviting only the top guys,any body will have chance to win.because the levels of the competitors will be close to eachother's. Cobra,my friend has it,but Gary Ray used to sell them.ask him,if not i will try to make a copy for you and bring it with when i will try to beat you. Soon
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Post by enginterzi on Dec 24, 2004 14:59:43 GMT -5
0-165 Rustam-Cvetan-myself-Cobra-Tullier-Silvers-Rundstorm-Fischer
165-198 Bongard-Taras-Klimenko-Abbott-Maximov-Fadzinov-Selearis-Sharon Remez-
198-220 Brzenk-Bath-Germanus-Omarov-Perron-Larratt-Johan Lindholm-Ionescu
+220 Voevoda-Bagent-Girdner-Semerenko-Erekle-Ibragimov-Randall-Barbosa
i believe this would be the greatest tournament ever...
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Post by Sol "Arm and Hammer"Ingram on Dec 24, 2004 15:09:52 GMT -5
WOW! That would be an incredible task! to promote. Now Vegas is HUGE my hats off to Dave and the whole group who makes it possible...A LOt of dedication..and sometimes frustation to make it happen! Why can't we expect to see these guys there Engin? Last year at vegas I pulled and it was one of the most awesome assembly of Past, Present and Future Champions!
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Post by Christopher Myers on Dec 24, 2004 17:13:42 GMT -5
I previously listed myself at 39 but now that I think about my performance at Zloty I am upgrading myself to 9th ;D Christopher Myers
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Post by Sol "Arm and Hammer"Ingram on Dec 24, 2004 19:04:37 GMT -5
LOL..Chris...... I'd say go for 8th, But when this goes down, you will be there !!! Keep pullin...Sol
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