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Post by Bob Brown on Jan 19, 2008 16:01:04 GMT -5
Engin, It is interesting how as we get older and start feeling the pain in the arm that we start thinking about training differently and how we probably should of been training all along. As you said about stretching, "They did not affect your arms in a positive way". I too used to never stretch but now do. I realized that the "Positive" was the health of the arm, which may of allowed us to compete without pain still today. Rock climbing is about 75% Static hold for Arm and Shoulder BUT it is 100% Static hold for Hand. The main movement in Climbing is in the legs. The book promotes "Cycling" your work outs. It basically states what you have said about more dynamic in the beginning with less static than later going to more Static for maximum strength. "If we only knew than what we know now"
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Post by enginterzi on Jan 19, 2008 16:14:06 GMT -5
yes Bob, my style is based on static locks and strecthing with high pressure reduced my performance,but i felt my arms healthy then but i had to choose success i should not have seen it as black and white.and do some light strecthings during the off season at least.armwrestling has not been analised and studied as other sports yet.it is being built on the shoulders of the elite armwrestlers by using their experiences.but i am glad to see that studies of the other sports which are similar with our sport,do not deny our personal experiences.i am not surprised because we would not have been as succesful as we have been if we were not on the right paths. once i thought i was made of steel but injuries taught me good lessons
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Post by Guy Lasorsa on Jan 19, 2008 18:44:58 GMT -5
You said started to train with heavy dynamics with low reps and ended with static trainings. I think this is a good way. If you were to work speed strength and endurance, in a day or seperate, that is the best order because your fast twitch fibers fatigue first.
I also do Not warm up before tournament, vey little Light. Any Nag from warm up use to play psychological on me so i stopped.
and yes there is NO perfect routine, everyone can find things for themselves. I trained in a gym 5 days a week, Back shoulders Chest very hard, I also found hevy dumbells i couldnt do 2 days in a week so I switch to one day or every 5 days. many times switching and trying new things. Yes you find what works .
On stretching you can hang arm and shake loose tto , But for me I feel very easy stretches are good for the arm for me today after every other set or pull sometimes. And if someone decides to Never stretch a muscle when its cold..
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Post by enginterzi on Jan 20, 2008 4:30:59 GMT -5
Only do it easy and focus on your muscles to relax into a stretch, never force. IMO this is the key about strecthing for armwrestling,at least this is what is best for me.
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Post by Guy Lasorsa on Jan 20, 2008 11:07:23 GMT -5
I still want to write more on flexibility and stretching in the future in the forum and agree that people must be cautious with everything they try and there is no 100% perfect way. We can Only draw off of experiences and some proven methods.
I wrote about Tension and strength recently in the TRAINING TIPS FORUM and just added an old article i remembered and found which helped me at the time reinforce this thought process
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Post by Yuval Bar on Jan 20, 2008 18:56:57 GMT -5
the best way to do stretching is only after u done working on a specied muscle not after each set, or not before the set, it will reduce the performench of the muscle.train with netural stretch. this is from last research on the subject and in my opinion DO NEVER DO STERTCHING on the forearms u dont want a flexible wrist. the tendons on the forearms should be very tight so tight that u cant bent your wrist back.warm up: dont do a lot of repeats 6 repeats with 50% of 8rm, 4 repeats with 70% of 8rm, and 2 repeats with 90% more than that and u get tired and and the muscle could produce milk liquid especially the biceps.i use to warm up with 15 reps once or twice and than start to train with the method of only 6 4 and 2 reps i can lift much more weight and not get injured.i cheat a little somthing like 7,5,4. but from articles its what i wrote 6,4,2.
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