TYSON

[Bad Draw Rhodes]

OUCH

[Scott Latella]

You aren't kidding Cobra. It hurts to watch. I have always been a fight fan and to see a great talent like Mike just slowly fade is painful. You could just see in his eyes as he was sitting on the ropes, Mike is lost.. We will always wonder where Mike would have been ranked alltime if things where just a little different.

[Kurt Howgate]

Mike has always been the most interesting boxer to watch, regardless of how much of a screw-up he has been.

However, who did he beat that was any good?

[Christopher Myers]

Sad Sad Sad

[simon]

I have to agree with Kurt, Mike has always been interesting, but who did Mike beat that was ever really that good? The entire heavyweight division has been weak for many many years now.


Who was the last great heavyweight?
What was the last great heavyweight fight, two great fighters in their prime etc.

[Scott Latella]

Simon your right . The division has been week for so long.. I think the 70's are the last time you had alot of top guys, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Norton and a young Holmes.. And they all fought each other. On the ?? about Tyson..before his prison stay he did fight all the main guys of the late 80's ( Pinklon Thomas, Tyrell Biggs, Spinks, Tubbs ) and took the 3 titles from the fighters that had them ( Berbick, Smith and Tucker) .. Yes not names that stick fear in you but they were the crop of young good (not great) fighters.. Also after he came out he did beat the 2 want to be tysons , Bruce Seldon and Orlin Norris each of who turned invisable after defeat. I'm a big fight fan and from my reading I think you can only compare guys on how they did at their prime and what their record was in their prime (Ali before war, Tyson before prison, Primo Carnera before Kidney removed). If you look at most fighters they just hang on way to long and have those ugly losses at the end.. Sorry to ramble.. Tysons best fight was his loss to Lewis. Tyson was past his prime and confused on how to get inside to fight Lewis but Really tryed. And as you and I know its all about Heart.. Tyson did try some last week but after He hurt the guy and he didn't go down Mike just looked lost.

Thats my 2 cents

[simon]

I have to agree on your assessment of the sport; the 70’s was the last time the heavyweight division was really competitive. I never have liked Lewis, hell Bruno was cleaning his clock before Lewis threw a bottom rope punch that knocked out Bruno, Lewis then learned how to use his great size to keep his opponents at bay while he picked at them. The only modern heavy weight I ever thought a great deal of was Holyfield, he took on the monster super heavyweights and the indestructible Tyson and was very successful, I think the Bowe/Holyfield trilogy Tyson/Holyfield 1, is probably the best of the modern heavyweight fights. Now a days it is all about the show and the game, my old boxing trainer Deano once said that the only thing that legitimized heavy weight boxing was professional wrestling.

Certainly Tyson took apart everyone that was in front of him early on, personally I think he took a dive against Douglas, but I digress, Orlin Norris and Bruce Sheldon, man did those guys look good prior to fighting Tyson. Alex Stewart was another seemingly good fighter that Tyson ended the career of, the guy was standing in a puddle of his own piss looking at Tyson across the ring before the opening bell. I have never seen anything like that.