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Post by Steven Lareau on Jan 27, 2005 11:49:53 GMT -5
uuuummmmmmmmm................dont know.....proly not...........read it .......find out When I read the bible, I like to look at the pictures. I only read children's bibles. The real one is too long.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jan 27, 2005 11:51:51 GMT -5
I think i have one of those somewhere around the house.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jan 27, 2005 11:59:33 GMT -5
Hows this Christian, since you brought it up
Mind Control in the Mormon Church Mind Control within the Mormon Latter-Day Saints Church is written about in further detail in the scholarly book The Mormon Conspiracy
In another book: Combatting Cult Mind Control, Steven Hassan list four components of Mind Control, control of behavior, control of thoughts, control of emotions and control of information. This is accomplished by unfreezing, changing and refreezing. The mind control of members by the use of these four components is accomplished in many ways, including the large number of social activities promoted by the church, the testimonials at church meetings, the teaching visits in the homes, satellite programs beamed into local ward houses by higher authorities of the church, periodicals such as the Ensign, faith-promoting books from the Church’s publishing house and television programs from church-owned stations.
What is it with mind control that causes people to believe in magical and mystical organizations such as the Mormon Church, an organization basing its beliefs on a fairy-like story of Joseph Smith’s golden plates and his translation of these plates (with God’s help) in writing the Book of Mormon? How is it that an organization is able to attract and keep members whose donations allow it to build a 50 billion dollar empire? I believe that Larry and Tammy Braithwaite, former members of the church, have put forth a credible answer to this question in their book, Journey to the Center of My Soul. This is a mind control concept of The The Pattern, (a method of fear and control that the Mormon Church uses to keep members) The Binder, (Church leadership binds “us heart and soul to the perpetual requirements of being a good Mormon”) and The Bound (“We gradually give up questioning the doctrine and history of the Church that seemed vague and troublesome and try to concentrate on doing all we could to be worthy of the larger, eternal blessings.”)
The Double-Bind is then employed that confuses and denies the Bound the ability to “think or feel rationally.” For example, whereas church doctrine (D&C 93:36) teaches The glory of God is intelligence, or, in other words, light and truth, church leaders say You will remain silent on those [doctrines] where differences exist between you and the Brethren. (Bruce McConkie’s Letter, Feb. 19, 1981)
“What The Pattern does, in effect, is turn the independent rational mind around so that the Bound reflects only the mind of the Binder, as a mirror. It creates a whole new orientation of the world, a conversion from the logical to the illogical-- the real to the unreal -- the truth to lies.”
This concept of controlling thought is explained further: “In the real world, nature provides us with an open system of trial and error, awareness and learning. Exercising our own bodies, senses, minds and self-direction allows us to reach for the stars, to see a greater range of possibilities and fulfill ourselves by being true to ourselves. In contrast, The Pattern, or upside-down world of Mormonism, took away our individuality. We became part of the mass known as the Latter-day Saints. We were instructed several times a week about what to think, what to believe, how to behave, what to read, how to dress and how to spend our money.”
Joseph Smith was a master at using The Pattern in sidestepping any questions or problems that he faced in his leadership of the Church. One example of Smith’s applying The Pattern is when he told Oliver Cowdery and Hiram Page that he had a revelation from God that they should go to Toronto, Canada and sell the copyright of his Book of Mormon. After returning in failure, these men asked Smith why their mission had failed since it was a revelation from God. Smith went into another room for a few minutes and returned saying that the whole thing had merely been a test to see if they would do all things whatsoever the Lord commanded them. (It’s not God or Joseph that messed up, it was Hiram and Oliver, who needed to be tested, who failed.)
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Post by simon on Jan 27, 2005 12:19:52 GMT -5
I grew up in fairly Mormon state and what they do own in that state is very large distributors of both products not the actual companies. They also own many chain convenience stores that sell alcohol, soda, cigarettes and pornography. (Not that there is anything wrong with any of those) When I say they, what I mean is very high up officials in the church and the regional churches themselves, the business entity that is the Mormon temple in Utah allegedly owns similar businesses. Here is something a bit scary, one of the properties I own is in Utah and its address is in direct correlation to its distance from the temple, my property….. Maybe someday I can afford to buy everything in the area so that I can change the street addresses. To Vick’s point people that drink Rum or JD and Pepsi, should stop drinking.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jan 27, 2005 12:44:05 GMT -5
Thats funny Simon. I think youll be ok.
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Post by Mike Dardenne on Jan 27, 2005 20:39:19 GMT -5
Thank Goodness for your insight Ryan !!! I am a converted man. As I do not wish to be construed as a supporter for the Mormon church (a.k.a. "cult"), my next visit to a drinking establishment will start with these words : Jack & [glow=red,2,300]COKE[/glow] Please ! (not that I ever drank that Pepsi crap anyway )
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jan 27, 2005 22:26:40 GMT -5
I must correct myself....im not sure of this fact totally......my teacher says they just bought coke but heard a while back that they bought pepsi either one of us is wrong and its most likly me or they own both now.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jan 27, 2005 22:33:28 GMT -5
ultimatly i dont think your in sin if you drink either or even if you have Prudential Life Insurance (also owned by the mormons)
I would just like people to be aware that they are not the christian church they claim to be. they are more closley related to the satanic church. Seriously.
Genesis 3........satan offers "God-hood" to eve. Mormons teach that they become Gods.
It is the goal of the mormons to gain total control of the globe. by addmission of one of the leaders of the mormon church.
They own many of the television stations and radio stations that broadcast the news.
The reason you will not hear of the murders involved in the mormons is becuase if someone is about to expose the mormon conspiracys they go buy the station and fire the reporter. whithin days. They have alot of power.
They are doing everything they can to legalize polygamy and to get the government to allow them to practice the blood atonement doctrine where anyone who falls away from the church or commits adultery or marries an african american is to be killed by the church.
There are many cases of this. that the news will not put out.
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Post by John Stanton on Jan 27, 2005 23:50:45 GMT -5
on the show "myth busters" they did a lot of the putting stuff in different sodas experiment, needless to say most of it was a myth.
soda does contain a certain type of acid and can be used to clean coins when left in the soda for a peroid of time.
pretty cool show though
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Post by John Stanton on Jan 27, 2005 23:52:02 GMT -5
for the record I drink coke and can't stand pepsi, if you can't tell the difference between the two you should have your taste buds checked
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Post by josephsirois on Jan 28, 2005 0:40:36 GMT -5
Coca cola can be used as a temporary engine coolant, NOT in your radiator. Use an egg in your radiator, seriously. Also don't pour sugar in your enemie's gastank, use bleach. The chlorine is an oxidising agent and causes rust which in turns gets pulled through.
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Post by Steven Lareau on Jan 28, 2005 8:58:50 GMT -5
...maybe it was engine coolant, I thought it was oil. I guess I read wrong. Thanks Joe. I still would like to hear if is actually effective on any level.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jan 28, 2005 14:29:06 GMT -5
can you have your taste buds checked?
do they have specialist?
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Post by John Stanton on Jan 28, 2005 15:14:12 GMT -5
Ryan
they can be checked at your local dentist office.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jan 28, 2005 16:10:22 GMT -5
ahhh
I havent been to a dentist since i was 6
but my teeth are fine see? ;D
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