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Post by Ryan Espey on Feb 4, 2007 15:04:40 GMT -5
I think Fedor would get destroyed by the top ufc heavyweights... Didn't anyone ever tell you that drugs are bad?
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Post by Ty Kissner on Feb 4, 2007 15:10:32 GMT -5
Honestly i've been drug free for about four or five years(if were talkin illegal street drugs), but theres something about Fedor im not sold on, hes a great fighter dont get me wrong, but I just feel that The ufc guys would win thats just all..
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Post by Ty Kissner on Feb 4, 2007 15:15:20 GMT -5
Mr. stanton is spelled Molson and no i dont drink that crap, its awful not to mention I've practically givin drinkin beer up all together......If U need to know im Usually throwin back Jeggermiester and red bulls........
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Post by Ryan Espey on Feb 4, 2007 16:11:35 GMT -5
Fedor has fought and squashed the best in the world... any educated fan would never pick any UFC guy over him. Once CroCop holds the UFC belt will you still think the same way? Fedor handed CroCop his ass.
I don't want to hear about what kind of juice you are on now... just in case you are itching to tell everyone again. I just gathered you would after your comment "(if were talkin illegal street drugs)".
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Post by John Stanton on Feb 4, 2007 16:17:12 GMT -5
Thank you for the spelling lesson. I was just trying to be nice instead of actually asking you if you were on crack.
Fedor is the baddest man in MMA right now.
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Post by Ty Kissner on Feb 4, 2007 20:55:44 GMT -5
actually ryan I am on nothing as of now and I was saying that reamark in regards to my earlier outing about a year or maybe two ago.
I have learned through many conversations and seeing the overall effects of long time users, that the juice is somewhat of an unwise choice, All i do know is eat as clean as possible and do my cardio, pretty much the same stuff that you preach so no for the record unlike some I am on Nothing not even Protein right now.
you guys like Fedor and he is one hell of a fighter but im not sold on him yet, maybe if he comes and wins in ufc ill be a believer, as for baddest man in MMA i don't think hes done enough to earn that name yet..
Yes he did hand cro-cop a whuppin but everyone gets whupped onetime or another..its the nature of things....
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Post by Ryan Espey on Feb 4, 2007 21:26:55 GMT -5
Wow... watch Pride.
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Post by Ty Kissner on Feb 4, 2007 21:56:19 GMT -5
I dunno Ryan, Guess Im not a fan of pride, i have watched it and to be honest it never really appealed to me, that may because I only really like the light heavy division. Fedor to me other than the cro-cop fight hasnt faught someone that could the top ufc heavyweights jock.
Thats jmo, but i feel because u beat an aging Mark Coleman twice,A.R.nogueira(whom Ricco Rodrigues dominated)three times, kevin randleman(a light heavy weight), heath hearing, Gary Goodridge,Semmy shilt,and a handful of unknown japanese fighters, that hardly qualify's you for baddest man in MMA,His biggest win after cro-cop is josh barnett..
12 outta his 15 wins have been guys that silvia, arlovski,mir,assuerio silvia,jeff monsson would have destroyed...
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Post by Ty Kissner on Feb 4, 2007 21:59:32 GMT -5
I dunno Ryan, Guess Im not a fan of pride, i have watched it and to be honest it never really appealed to me, that may because I only really like the light heavy division. Fedor to me other than the cro-cop fight hasnt faught someone that could the top ufc heavyweights jock.
Thats jmo, but i feel because u beat an aging Mark Coleman twice,A.R.nogueira(whom Ricco Rodrigues dominated)three times, kevin randleman(a light heavy weight), heath hearing, Gary Goodridge,Semmy shilt,and a handful of unknown japanese fighters, that hardly qualify's you for baddest man in MMA,His biggest win after cro-cop is josh barnett..
12 outta his 15 wins have been guys that silvia, arlovski,mir,assuerio silvia,jeff monsson would have destroyed...
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Post by Ryan Espey on Feb 4, 2007 22:16:21 GMT -5
www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?FighterID=1500Ricco lost to Nog and they only fought once. I am not going to try and convince you... but of those Japanese fighters that are unknown (to you) are some bad men that would chew up most. What about Mark Hunt. Oh yeah... Semmy Schilt just won the K1 World Grand Prix... making him the current best stand up fighter in the world.
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Post by Ty Kissner on Feb 4, 2007 22:39:40 GMT -5
K1 is not MMA its Kick Boxing big difference there, thats wht semmy isnt to successful in MMA. whats he hovering around 500 hundred..... as to whom i think will beat Fedor i honestly think its sylvia, check out www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?FighterID=1061, pretty identical record, has 2 losses one cause his arm broke, i think it b a hell of a fight between them. Mark Hunt whos he beaten beside cro-cop, thats of notable mention wanderlai whom he out weighs by 50 or so pounds... as for those japanese guys heir records are nothing to write home to, half of them have no wins in pride at all, yes there are two or three with decent records but thats all... All im saying is Fedor hasnt faught as many top quality opponents as sylvia,arlovski & asseurio silva...thats all
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Post by Harry Kern on Feb 4, 2007 22:47:04 GMT -5
Ty, I'm sorry bud but you just aren't gonna win this argument. Pride simply has the better fighters. Sylvia, Arlovsky, and yes I will even put Randy Couture on this list........would all be destroyed by Fedor. As of last night the only UFC heaveywieght that even comes close imo is Cro Cop and we all saw how he fared against Fedor. Just look at what Pride fighters have done to UFC guys recently, Rampage is the last guy to beat Chuck Liddel, Anderson Sylva simply dissmantled Rich Franklin and Chris Leban (not to mention his win over Lutter last night). And Cro Cop..........I believe he will wear the UFC title no matter who happens to have it when he gets his shot....he is that damn good. I heard a rumor the other day that the reason all these guys are coming over from pride is that thier divisions are so stacked that it's just easier to get a title shot in UFC....I dunno how true that is but it really wouldn't suprise me
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Post by Ty Kissner on Feb 4, 2007 23:26:15 GMT -5
anderson sylvia is unreal agreed but I believe when him and frankilin go again, franklin wont take him as lightly..
True Liddell has lost to rampage, but wanderali has lost to belfort and tito, guys chucks beat and wanderlai destroyed rampage, it just goes to show you never know what can happen on any given night....
true but ufc guys have gone there and been equally successful.....Josh Barnett, mark coleman,randleman,wanderlai have all left ufc to become succesful pride fighters..
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Post by Harry Kern on Feb 4, 2007 23:42:29 GMT -5
I suppose it all depends on which fighter is in question. And the "any given sunday" factor is very real.....but be carefull not to confuse fluke wins with real wins (I know wins are wins but.........ahh you know what I'm sayin) I'm not gonna go and say any one of those wins was a fluke but the possibility is there.
I just think overall pride has the better fighters..........guess we'll have to agree to dissagree
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Post by Ryan Espey on Feb 5, 2007 0:07:19 GMT -5
You should post on Sherdog some time Ty... you would be flamed to death.
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