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Post by jonathanvazquez on May 25, 2008 23:52:40 GMT -5
devon is a tank. i wish i could see the video to see how even the matces were. but yes i think he has the potential to be #1. but without a bracket formation like the NAL, we may never know. there will always be speculation and injuries.
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Post by enginterzi on May 26, 2008 3:59:11 GMT -5
before Travis was injured Brzenk was better than him,Farid was better than him and Voevoda was better than him when they pulled last time.. Travis beat Voevoda (in 2003)when Voevoda weighed 107 kg (235) but a year later Voevoda was 270 pounds and beat Travis,Girdner and 209 version of Brzenk. Devon is a great puller and it is possible him to beat any of the top 3 pullers that i have listed over him but unless he beats any of them it is not making sense to rank him over them.Farid has pulled Travis twice and won both of them.and the last one was in Vegas 06 and it was the fastest match that i have seen best of Bagent lost. last year in WAF Pushkar beat Farid in the heavyweight final,then beat Farid again at the Zloty.these two events are the 2 of the toughest competetions in the world and means a lot when i want to rank someone. if beating Ron and Travis makes a person number 1 immediately then i think no one has done it more than John has done.unless someone beats the best of Brzenk he will be ranked number one in my book. there is a great opportunity for Devon to rank higher,2008 WAF will be held at his back yard  also very soon i may announce something great that will be "GREAT" (if all goes how it seems). scenario for Devon to be number 1 is beating the number one guy!!! if Devon vs John would not have been cancelled and if Devon would win then i would without a doubt rank him number 1.but how can he be rank number 1 without beating the number 1 guy? do we need to forget what John has been doing and take his number one spot away from him just because his wrist is injured? Devon did a great job once again,but John did not become the best by beating only Ron and Travis.John is a warrior and this guy has been travelling all over the world and dominating the very best ones of the World "FROM EAST TO WEST". i do not expect anyone including Devon to do all that Brzenk has done because it seems impossible to me,but expect at least Devon to beat John when John is ready,so that Devon will prove that he is the best.i understand that you obviously think that Devon is the best now and you cant wait for him to be accepted as the best puller.but IMO Devon and his fans need to be a bit more patient and wait till he gets his chance to pull the best to "PROVE" the whole world that he deserves to be the best. it was my objective thoughts and i hope that i did not offend anyone.. |
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Post by Bob Brown on May 26, 2008 6:30:05 GMT -5
chris lydman When will it start making sense to say if Devon comes in at this shape fogettabout it? or is that just not register to you! Devon is the Best Right handed armwrestler in the world end of story...we all new that this was goinig to be a desaster match to reff..It's not like Travis would just say hi dev lets take a fair grip and see who the better man is!!Anyway i can't knock the guy he has beaten John and vavodea so he knows what he is doining... Congrates Devon you earned it... So, I was reading through this to see were Devon was not getting respect and saw this post. Now I am understanding. Now I am a huge Devon fan, but to say he is #1 is a little bias. This is Engins rankings, which IMO is pretty accurate. and BTW, Engin picked Devon to beat Travis. 10 World, men right 1. John Brzenk, USA 2. Andrey Pushkar, UKR 3. Farid Usmanov, UZB 4. Devon Larratt, CAN 5. Ron Bath, USA 6. Richard Lupkes, USA 7. Alexey Semerenko, UKR 8. Taras Ivakin, UKR 9. Marcio Barboza, BRA/USA 10. Dima Kotchiev, RUS This means Devon beat a guy ranked below him. So why would beating him make him #1. If you want Devon to move up in Rankings. Get him to Zloty and 2008 worlds. |
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Post by jamesretarides on May 26, 2008 7:44:43 GMT -5
Looking at the 10 armwrestlers listed above, I believe at this point in time 8 of them would have a nearly equal chance of winning if you put them all in a class. Ian, I understand you are taking up for Devon, I always felt obligated to do the same thing when people bashed Tim Bresnan on here because he was a training partner and a close friend. I respect that, and rankings are only speculation. Though I must say that Engin's knowledge of the sport is seldom paralleled. Devon is a beast, people have been linking him with the top 4 to 5 guys in the world since Chehalis 2004, even before that. I hope I get disrespected like that one day.  |
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Post by Eric Williamson on May 26, 2008 8:00:57 GMT -5
I agree that Devon is possibly the best right handed puller in the world right now, but he's gotta keep proving it in order to earn that spot. If John is heathy soon and continues to perform at his normal level, and Devon then beats him, I believe he deserves the spot. It would also help for Devon to face Usmanov and Pushkar to prove his place in the standings.
If apparent strength was all that it took to get a spot, Voevoda would probably be ranked #1 continually.
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Post by Ian "The Grippler" Carnegie on May 26, 2008 8:47:32 GMT -5
again Pete sorry...you know what really burns my a$$  ..a flame about 3 1/2 feet high???this was exactley my point. Devon traind for 6 months to pull the greatest armwrestler in the world...hibernated we might say in seclusion to gain rock hard mass and strength...he trained to beat John Brznek "The Best Armwrestler Ever" he trained for the mindset of "pulling john" ha! funny...anyway he was anticipateing a power match with a master armwrestler.......he got a wwe superstar with lighting speed and again has beaten the worlds best....he did it anyway! winning was a lose lose situation for Dev.. you win good on you you lose your a bum! I know Devon will come home and tell everyone he had a good time and Travis is the man and he will except that it is what it is.... remember when lennox lewis retired from boxing instead of taking a 20 million dollar rematch with klistchko?? i wonder??? I feel that Devon is a lock at the box office, OUR #1 super star! |
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Post by chrislydman on May 26, 2008 9:15:50 GMT -5
Oh shut up!!! It happened. The day is done. Move on. |
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Post by enginterzi on May 26, 2008 9:17:24 GMT -5
Ian,
Devon is not the only armwrestler who has been training like hell,i have been doing it for none stop 16 years.John Brzenk has been dominating the World for over 20 years and he has nothing to prove.let Devon keep training till the day that he will have chance to pull against best of Brzenk,for Brzenk, that i know of,will not retire before he pulls Devon (he would not ask 20 million dollars for it).let us remember who Brzenk is by his works.
beating Bath gave Devon a higher spot,but why would Devon be ranked number 1 just because John was injured and Devon had to beat Travis who is just making his return after a serious injury?is Travis number 1 right hand puller now?
Ian,
Devon did a great job by beating Bath and Bagent and everyone respects this.i believe that you are the one who is making things look negative by stating that Devon does not receive the respect that he deserves.you are behaving emotional which is normal since you are a friend and countryman of Devon.
i can not imagine how you would react if Devon would have done even 20% of the things that Brzenk has done in only last a few years(beating Taras 10 times,Semerenko 9 times,Pushkar 9 times,Farid 5 times,Travis many times,Bath many times).
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Post by chrislydman on May 26, 2008 9:19:43 GMT -5
Ian, I fully understand what you're saying, and admire what Devon has done armwrestling. Bob Brown had some great suggestions for him competing! It all takes $$$$, and Devon should be able, with his skill, to secure sponsor money.
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Post by Dimitry Sklyarov on May 26, 2008 10:03:11 GMT -5
Ian, Devon is not the only armwrestler who has been training like hell,i have been doing it for none stop 16 years.John Brzenk has been dominating the World for over 20 years and he has nothing to prove.let Devon keep training till the day that he will have chance to pull against best of Brzenk,for Brzenk, that i know of,will not retire before he pulls Devon (he would not ask 20 million dollars for it).let us remember who Brzenk is by his works. beating Bath gave Devon a higher spot,but why would Devon be ranked number 1 just because John was injured and Devon had to beat Travis who is just making his return after a serious injury?is Travis number 1 right hand puller now? Ian, Devon did a great job by beating Bath and Bagent and everyone respects this.i believe that you are the one who is making things look negative by stating that Devon does not receive the respect that he deserves.you are behaving emotional which is normal since you are a friend and countryman of Devon. i can not imagine how you would react if Devon would have done even 20% of the things that Brzenk has done in only last a few years(beating Taras 10 times,Semerenko 9 times,Pushkar 9 times,Farid 5 times,Travis many times,Bath many times). Can't put it any better than Engin has...that last paragraph right there is def why Breznk holds the top spot hands down. |
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Post by enginterzi on May 26, 2008 10:07:40 GMT -5
BTW i must say that i respect Ian's opinions and it is very possible that Devon is the best right now,all i argue is that this needs to be proven before we take this honour away from Brzenk (not the honour of being the best ever but the honour of being the best of today).
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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on May 26, 2008 11:20:03 GMT -5
Engin: RIGHT ON! Ian: I mean this with all respect..... How long have you been in this "sport", REALLY IN THE SPORT? ..And I don't mean sitting in a basement practicing and READING AND POSTING ON THIS BOARD.( it sometimes "seems" like many do this and say their in this "sport", know the "sport", and KNOW the people in this "sport"...Petes got a name for them, but I forgot it...LOL). Those that have been in a long time, have PULLED Devon, and ACTUALLY know him and his career give him ALL THE RESPECT IN THE WORLD, on AND off the table...... So please enough of the crying that Devon gets no respect..ENGIN IS RIGHT!!!!!! BTW: Devon trained for John for how long?...HMMMM...How long did Travis train for Devons RIGHT?....Travis doesn't or didn't have to train for Devons LEFT!!!!!! Travis' right is NOT like his left, whether he had surgery or not...Travis would never use his surgically repaired wrist as an excuse for losing...... Sorry if I offended by making a post.....  |
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Post by Pete & Tim on May 26, 2008 11:29:09 GMT -5
I call them the "Arm TV Generation". ;D
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Post by Bob Paradis on May 26, 2008 17:45:13 GMT -5
I call them the "Arm TV Generation". ;D Some of the boys in the Arm TV generation are real good eggs though. ;D Until John Brzenk gets dethroned, he still owns the title of best right handed arm wrestler in the world. Engin's list has the most likely successors. Devon's on the list. Five years from now, Devon, or someone else may be the "undisputed" king. |
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Post by Pete & Tim on May 26, 2008 18:08:34 GMT -5
None of the Arm TV Generation are any good.
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also very soon i may announce something great that will be "GREAT" (if all goes how it seems).
..a flame about 3 1/2 feet high???this was exactley my point. Devon traind for 6 months to pull the greatest armwrestler in the world...hibernated we might say in seclusion to gain rock hard mass and strength...he trained to beat John Brznek "The Best Armwrestler Ever" he trained for the mindset of "pulling john" ha! funny...anyway he was anticipateing a power match with a master armwrestler.......he got a wwe superstar with lighting speed and again has beaten the worlds best....he did it anyway! winning was a lose lose situation for Dev.. you win good on you you lose your a bum!
