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Post by Chris Kaufman on Oct 22, 2008 19:22:41 GMT -5
So the biggest reason you're not voting for Obama is because of the media ads? Because there are more paid for tv ads than you apparently like, you won't vote for the person in the ads? And because the ads are full of slander and no real substance? Jim, are you capable of programming your tv so it doesn't show you all the McCain ads? Or do you think that McCain's ads aren't full of slander and have no real substance? No Karen it was sarcasm. I am not much on politcal discussions but one thing I can assure everyone I wont be doing and that is taking into consideration any of the crap resulting from 3 million dollars a day that the Obama camp is using to blow their own horns. Now if I can just find positive constructive and helpful things that are being brought to the presidency by this candidate then I will consider even voting out of party. Same with McCain but then again when he has been allowed to speak he has shown and honestly placed his ideas out there and not claimed to be the savior as it were. I have not decided but once again I say it is better to support someone who does not claim to know all the answers but has alot of suggestions rather than someone who claims to know all the answers and never seems to show them . I consider that to be like carpetbagging or like a medicine man or root seller. Someone who is real good at selling something and people end up buying it before they even know what it is. I will continue my quest to see for myself. Buying a bill of BS and hope for change on a gamble would be like stupid to me. I don't gamble. I don't know what kind of advertising they're doing in Florida, but since CO is supposedly a "battle ground" state, we're getting slammed with commercials. The thing I've noticed here is that McCain's commercials all focus on the Obama propaganda, while Obama's commercials are actually focusing on his plans and proposals. I don't think I've seen one commercial of McCain's where he actually talked about his stance on something. That to me shows his desperation. I don't know though, it might be the exact opposite there. On a side note. I think Obama has to spend that amount of money on campaigning to refute all the crap people that people are making up about him. There are still people that honestly believe that he's muslim, a terrorist, or the Anti-Christ.
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Post by James Battles on Oct 22, 2008 20:27:03 GMT -5
the commercials here are slams from both sides but what I was referencing these long drawn out articles online for MSNBC and others. They are all about nothing except slamming or berating McCain and after yelling foul for McCain to say anything about Mr. Obama's past associations I find it disgusting that the Obama camp would produce articles of insults and suppositions and this idea by the online networks and discussion boards are sad. They have people in there posing as veterans taking stabs. The truth surfaces when you ask them to identify themselves. It seems to be all about online messagboard propaganda warfare. The republican side of the discussion has not berated in the forums so much as there is this huge amount of people who claim to be republicans but make a comment and then disappear. The comments are very nasty and from reading down the threads I guess they are on the payroll as well. I don't approve of any tactics that show dishonesty. The news and informational should be limited to that and I guess we should all ignore these because there are so many lies being told. I don't agree with ignoring allowing people to register to vote numerous times. I don't agree with slanderous lies and fraud being purported as a tactic to win anything although I guess people try to justify it. So be it but my vote will not be based on any of these readings. I will wait on an honest breakdown of what these two gentlemen claim they can bring to the table in constructive help for this country and then I will weigh it with what I think would be the right thing to do and make a decision from there. I think that there is going to be thousands of lemmings though who are couch potato controlled who will simply vote brainwashed. I am sure the claim that it was improper for me to suggest such a thing will surface the same as so many things that have been said have been treated by people. But trust me it is also true and will be a factor just like many are voting based on color instead of merits. I didn't view Colon Powell as ever describing just what his deciding difference was to back Obama instead of someone he previously backed in McCain. I doubt he would dare say anything he disagreed about and become involved so ......... why. To hear others instead of right out of his mouth it is because McCain is evil. I guess I will just continue my tolerance of my elderly democratic friend who just happens to be black continue to pummel me on how Mr. Obama is here to save him from the evil white devil McCain for a while longer to see if he realizes I am also Caucasian. He means well but you have heard you cannot teach an old dog new tricks. Well this guy is convinced his future is all roses with Obama. I hope so because I would hate to see what he would do if it wasn't. In short he wants his full retirement back even though I am not sure he ever had one. I think it is just social security. I think he is confused. I don't rattle his cage much because he is on some kind of mission. Myself I am fact finding and I don't care what that funed governor of the state of Florida's opinion is. I can tell you all about Charlie Crist. I can tell you that his financial services that controls my profession is incompetent and literally just collects a check without doing anything in earnest they say they are there to do. I can also tell you all that whenever he says he is doing something with the state citizens best interest at heart you better double clutch him because he is just looking to see if you are looking. Things are getting done but only after threat that if he didn't resume hammering out some relief that we would lynch him. So in the end you cannot trust any of them. It might not be a bad idea to fire all politicians as corrupt fubar and look for new but the corruption of evil men will always exist to some degree as the lure of easy money has a strong appeal. I have things to do . I will stop there. We are all doomed Yet I maintain hope and faith. How could I not be a christian? Goodnight, man
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Post by chrislydman on Oct 22, 2008 20:31:50 GMT -5
All one has to do is watch FOX, and McCain and Palin are Gods.......
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Post by Stephen Pickron "Pic" on Oct 22, 2008 20:58:49 GMT -5
As far the teacher goes he messed up ........dont take the mans job maybe he has a family he needs to take care of .................suspention without pay and then put him on probation for a year or two make him walk a thin line for a good while..................He didnt kill anybody .he didnt rob anybody............the man really f^*ked up ................its not the end of the world it happens every day.
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Post by James Battles on Oct 22, 2008 21:53:41 GMT -5
All one has to do is watch FOX, and McCain and Palin are Gods....... Ok enough thread robbing for one night. I am not gonna pay attention to any of the media. I view them as interference that is not fair to anyone and they are nothing payed guns for the highest bidder. I too follow the rule of do what is right and fair for all. I have many friends of many nationalities and there really is no room for the Race card anywhere in this world from any side under any circumstance. In the end people who do it will need alot of experiences in life which I am sure their paths will show them the error of serious accusations because we all have tests presented before us whether we like them or not. If we do not learn they will repeat themselves in our futures until we do. It is human fate.
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Post by chrislydman on Oct 22, 2008 21:54:05 GMT -5
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Post by Tim "Powerhouse" Parker on Oct 22, 2008 21:54:19 GMT -5
the commercials here are slams from both sides but what I was referencing these long drawn out articles online for MSNBC and others. They are all about nothing except slamming or berating McCain and after yelling foul for McCain to say anything about Mr. Obama's past associations I find it disgusting that the Obama camp would produce articles of insults and suppositions and this idea by the online networks and discussion boards are sad. They have people in there posing as veterans taking stabs. The truth surfaces when you ask them to identify themselves. It seems to be all about online messagboard propaganda warfare. The republican side of the discussion has not berated in the forums so much as there is this huge amount of people who claim to be republicans but make a comment and then disappear. The comments are very nasty and from reading down the threads I guess they are on the payroll as well. I don't approve of any tactics that show dishonesty. The news and informational should be limited to that and I guess we should all ignore these because there are so many lies being told. I don't agree with ignoring allowing people to register to vote numerous times. I don't agree with slanderous lies and fraud being purported as a tactic to win anything although I guess people try to justify it. So be it but my vote will not be based on any of these readings. I will wait on an honest breakdown of what these two gentlemen claim they can bring to the table in constructive help for this country and then I will weigh it with what I think would be the right thing to do and make a decision from there. I think that there is going to be thousands of lemmings though who are couch potato controlled who will simply vote brainwashed. I am sure the claim that it was improper for me to suggest such a thing will surface the same as so many things that have been said have been treated by people. But trust me it is also true and will be a factor just like many are voting based on color instead of merits. I didn't view Colon Powell as ever describing just what his deciding difference was to back Obama instead of someone he previously backed in McCain. I doubt he would dare say anything he disagreed about and become involved so ......... why. To hear others instead of right out of his mouth it is because McCain is evil. I guess I will just continue my tolerance of my elderly democratic friend who just happens to be black continue to pummel me on how Mr. Obama is here to save him from the evil white devil McCain for a while longer to see if he realizes I am also Caucasian. He means well but you have heard you cannot teach an old dog new tricks. Well this guy is convinced his future is all roses with Obama. I hope so because I would hate to see what he would do if it wasn't. In short he wants his full retirement back even though I am not sure he ever had one. I think it is just social security. I think he is confused. I don't rattle his cage much because he is on some kind of mission. Myself I am fact finding and I don't care what that funed governor of the state of Florida's opinion is. I can tell you all about Charlie Crist. I can tell you that his financial services that controls my profession is incompetent and literally just collects a check without doing anything in earnest they say they are there to do. I can also tell you all that whenever he says he is doing something with the state citizens best interest at heart you better double clutch him because he is just looking to see if you are looking. Things are getting done but only after threat that if he didn't resume hammering out some relief that we would lynch him. So in the end you cannot trust any of them. It might not be a bad idea to fire all politicians as corrupt fubar and look for new but the corruption of evil men will always exist to some degree as the lure of easy money has a strong appeal. I have things to do . I will stop there. We are all doomed Yet I maintain hope and faith. How could I not be a christian? Goodnight, man James then ur gonna hate this pix LOL
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Post by James Battles on Oct 23, 2008 0:28:05 GMT -5
Not really Tim. I am just not one of the beautiful people. I can except that and will continue to fight the good fight in his half Azzed corrupted world. It is a shame that the real qualified people are pushed out in so many places to allow a kind of friendship based type of nepotism to run its course. It is thick in the civil service as well. We have this huge air force base here and I out qualify many of the people making anywhere from 56 to 85 grand a year yet I cannot get a job there because they simply pass over me. The reason being I am not related to military. These guys hire people to positions with no training in the hired field whatsoever. I have a friend who was retired Air Force Captain. He worked as a programmer on base for a while . Trouble is he doesn't do any programming .... at all. Myself I am a certified administrator with 10 years worth of hands on hardware experience and a very strong background in Networking and I cannot even get a job working tier 1 assistant. It is the slang version of Gay. I will continue though and eventually my experience will rise to a level that will not have competition. I figure a programming language or three. Sql metadata warehousing and C++ ought to do it along with a web based language to add and I shouldnt have much problems. As it stands though being an engineer by heart I have real abilities in building designs on all fronts. Machines, Networks, Group Policy domain design and I understand security which will allow me to be Harrison Ford from firewall although better looking than him. aight tired and maybe a little bewildered but not out and certainly not lacking for talent. night, Jim
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Post by chrislydman on Oct 23, 2008 8:41:00 GMT -5
Not really Tim. I am just not one of the beautiful people. I can except that and will continue to fight the good fight in his half Azzed corrupted world. It is a shame that the real qualified people are pushed out in so many places to allow a kind of friendship based type of nepotism to run its course. It is thick in the civil service as well. We have this huge air force base here and I out qualify many of the people making anywhere from 56 to 85 grand a year yet I cannot get a job there because they simply pass over me. The reason being I am not related to military. These guys hire people to positions with no training in the hired field whatsoever. I have a friend who was retired Air Force Captain. He worked as a programmer on base for a while . Trouble is he doesn't do any programming .... at all. Myself I am a certified administrator with 10 years worth of hands on hardware experience and a very strong background in Networking and I cannot even get a job working tier 1 assistant. It is the slang version of Gay. I will continue though and eventually my experience will rise to a level that will not have competition. I figure a programming language or three. Sql metadata warehousing and C++ ought to do it along with a web based language to add and I shouldnt have much problems. As it stands though being an engineer by heart I have real abilities in building designs on all fronts. Machines, Networks, Group Policy domain design and I understand security which will allow me to be Harrison Ford from firewall although better looking than him. aight tired and maybe a little bewildered but not out and certainly not lacking for talent. night, Jim Thread Robber!! Morning, James!! ;D
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Post by Leonard Harkless on Oct 23, 2008 11:08:35 GMT -5
As far the teacher goes he messed up ........dont take the mans job maybe he has a family he needs to take care of .................suspention without pay and then put him on probation for a year or two make him walk a thin line for a good while..................He didnt kill anybody .he didnt rob anybody............the man really f^*ked up ................its not the end of the world it happens every day. I know what you are saying but he just didn't slip up and say the wrong thing. When you write something out, you have gone to another level. This was deliberate and someone like that has no business teaching our children anything. He can go to work in another field and make a living but not teaching children. No way.
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Post by chrislydman on Oct 23, 2008 11:39:28 GMT -5
As far the teacher goes he messed up ........dont take the mans job maybe he has a family he needs to take care of .................suspention without pay and then put him on probation for a year or two make him walk a thin line for a good while..................He didnt kill anybody .he didnt rob anybody............the man really f^*ked up ................its not the end of the world it happens every day. I know what you are saying but he just didn't slip up and say the wrong thing. When you write something out, you have gone to another level. This was deliberate and someone like that has no business teaching our children anything. He can go to work in another field and make a living but not teaching children. No way. Well put, Leonard. It's my understanding that he wrote on the board multiple days. You made my point again, he can work all kinds of places, he just isn't suited to instruct youth.
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Post by Stephen Pickron "Pic" on Oct 23, 2008 12:32:49 GMT -5
I wasnt aware that he wrote ot on the chalkboard multipletimes in that case I agree
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Post by Tim "Powerhouse" Parker on Oct 25, 2008 20:34:42 GMT -5
Not really Tim. I am just not one of the beautiful people. I can except that and will continue to fight the good fight in his half Azzed corrupted world. It is a shame that the real qualified people are pushed out in so many places to allow a kind of friendship based type of nepotism to run its course. It is thick in the civil service as well. We have this huge air force base here and I out qualify many of the people making anywhere from 56 to 85 grand a year yet I cannot get a job there because they simply pass over me. The reason being I am not related to military. These guys hire people to positions with no training in the hired field whatsoever. I have a friend who was retired Air Force Captain. He worked as a programmer on base for a while . Trouble is he doesn't do any programming .... at all. Myself I am a certified administrator with 10 years worth of hands on hardware experience and a very strong background in Networking and I cannot even get a job working tier 1 assistant. It is the slang version of Gay. I will continue though and eventually my experience will rise to a level that will not have competition. I figure a programming language or three. Sql metadata warehousing and C++ ought to do it along with a web based language to add and I shouldnt have much problems. As it stands though being an engineer by heart I have real abilities in building designs on all fronts. Machines, Networks, Group Policy domain design and I understand security which will allow me to be Harrison Ford from firewall although better looking than him. aight tired and maybe a little bewildered but not out and certainly not lacking for talent. night, Jim and I thought you were just a Gorilla with hand cuffs. LOL If you were here in Brevard County I would have you talk to my partner (Keith) www.nsyncdata.net/nsyncdata/networking/keith.shtml He's our lead engineer. We are always looking for talent that we can TRUST. Even in this slow economy there is $$ out there to be found. Especially since your already make dough with your handcuffs. Hell, have a few connect there too with a Big networking lead ( BrevardSheriffsOffice.org) (brother) gimmi a call sometime ======================== "Check out what's new at BrevardCounty.com - Your most trusted community resource for information about living, working and playing on Florida's Spacecoast." ======================== Sincerely, Tim Parker Vice President N-Sync Computer Services www.nsyncdata.net 321-784-8488 x29 321-784-8398 (Fax) 7191 N. Atlantic Ave. Cape Canaveral, Fl. 32920
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Post by Carey Nick on Oct 28, 2008 22:57:13 GMT -5
Carey you think it's ok for a teacher - someone who is responsible for shaping the lives of young people in this country - to use racial slurs in the classroom? Joking or not joking? Children learn by example from the adults in their lives. What example did this teacher show them? [/quote] I feel the teacher got what he deserved for his actions. I said "should this guy lose his job? No" This guy should be moved from the Jackson County area and find work else where. His pay was cut. Should have to pay more. Yes the children learn from adults (Teachers), but losing the ability to teach because of a racial slur....no. Any racial slur is un-called for in any classroom when it comes to children, reguardless of age. I think this guy is a DUMBA&& when it comes to morals and should look at himself before trying to be funny to his kids. Would the community be as upset if it wasn't a black or white slur? Let's say a person from Japan or Poland? Iran or Iraq? Fat or skinny? Questions? I guess we'll never find out. My point again was this guy screwed up and needs to find work elsewhere. No matter where he tries to find work it this will remain on his record. NOW HE HAS TO LIVE WITH THIS MISTAKE.
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Post by Krista Snow on Oct 30, 2008 11:15:36 GMT -5
its sad that society is still stuck in time. No wonder our kids are messed up. My mom grew up hating colored people. She feels like most people that a Nword should not be president. This is a new era. People need to change there views are at least hide them for our kids sake
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