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Post by enginterzi on Mar 14, 2010 3:56:47 GMT -5
also it kills me when people thinks that its possible someone to become much better n stronger between 52 and 59.there must be some scientifical explanation for that other than physical disabilities but i can not think of it.from 12 to 19 ok 7 years means a lot..or from 15 to 22 or 20 to 27 still means much for who just started to pull..but for someone who has been pulling for already 30 years to get much stronger from the age of 52 to age of 59 ...his physical disability may have become worser and this can be the only improvement at that age that one`s hgh and testosteron levels should be grounded..
i just wished that George could have tried to pull 2008 WAF in his back yard while Rustam still was 80kg..for sure Rustam must have balls bigger than somebody`head since he pulls all over the world but some thinks that George could have beaten Rustam even though he took 2. at the Canadian Nationals below someone who took 9. place below Rustam..i always try to make my points with the facts but i guess i need to be just quite after seing this ignorance that compares George with Rustam.someone please cut and post the parts of the 2002-2003 WAFs where both Ozgur n Dursun flashed George like walking in the park.. oh sorry he was only 52 years old then.. he grew up and became an adult since then..now he is a big boy and can beat the guys whom he couldnt when he was a kid at the age of 52..
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Post by Ian "The Grippler" Carnegie on Mar 14, 2010 4:04:51 GMT -5
I feel If George has a lock in his arm that doesn't allow people to pin him because of 30 years of armwrestling then good for him he earned that lock i hope i get one too. only i hope its worse, I hope mine develops to my setup angle so people never move me from center lol!
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Post by enginterzi on Mar 14, 2010 4:17:23 GMT -5
Yes I think Rustam would win. Roman had him almost pinned one time from what I seen an Rustam is stronger than Roman. anyone who has been pulling in the WAF n EAF events would not even mention to compare Rustam and Roman..if someone would talk about it over here then trust me people would laugh about it by taking it as a joke..Roman is as good as Rustam if we compare them pound for pound..Roman at 176 would kill Rustam at 154 as well if it was possible.. Rustam does not have any disabilities on his arm..he wins with his strength that is in his fingers..wrist..bicep..rotator..supinator..shoulder..hammer..side pressure..back pressure..shoulder pressure... unlike a physical disability at 120 degree... and i bet he will be weaker from 52 to 59 years old age same as normal human being that has a healhty arm.. i apoligise if my facts are taken as offense but i have no intention to offend anyone but expressing my thoughts in an open way since people even dares to question the size of my balls after pulling against the worlds best pullers all around the world for near 20 years.
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Post by enginterzi on Mar 14, 2010 4:19:58 GMT -5
I feel If George has a lock in his arm that doesn't allow people to pin him because of 30 years of armwrestling then good for him he earned that lock i hope i get one too. only i hope its worse, I hope mine develops to my setup angle so people never move me from center lol! if that was the reason of that lock then we could see the same thing with anyone who has been pulling for 30 years.i guess it happenned by an injury..i respect your opinion but i would rather quit pulling instead of winning because of an injury caused disability..
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Post by Bob Paradis on Mar 14, 2010 5:35:58 GMT -5
I feel If George has a lock in his arm that doesn't allow people to pin him because of 30 years of armwrestling then good for him he earned that lock i hope i get one too. only i hope its worse, I hope mine develops to my setup angle so people never move me from center lol! if that was the reason of that lock then we could see the same thing with anyone who has been pulling for 30 years.i guess it happenned by an injury..i respect your opinion but i would rather quit pulling instead of winning because of an injury caused disability.. I have been told that George's arm fully extends. His "lock" is strength. Ask Roman what he thinks. He played around with George last year after a tournament. George was able to hold him. That says a lot to me.
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Post by samscott on Mar 14, 2010 5:53:41 GMT -5
Come on guy's, let's be serious. There is no way George could beat a healthy Rustam -- not a chance.
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Post by enginterzi on Mar 14, 2010 6:24:15 GMT -5
here we go again..i asked him to straight his arm at 2005 MG classic..he said he was tired and he couldnt do it..then at the Arnolds year or couple of years ago he couldnt do it when Bob Brown asked him to do..unless i see with my own eyes i dont buy that story...why dont someone film him straighting his arm..
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Post by Guy Windover on Mar 14, 2010 6:59:03 GMT -5
Is George the best in the world, I havent a clue. Is he top ten. Possibly. But I think with the amount of effort he HAS put into this sport He warrants more respect than this. Engin all your EAF and WAF medals that you have won do not give you any right to show disrespect. I have seen your points and I believe they have validity. But in driving home your points you cross lines into disrespecting a man to which has not asked for it. It is not George on here claiming he is the best. It is others. North Americans. Ignorant ones according to your philosophy. Maybe it is the language barrier. I dont know. I just wish you could let some of it slide. People are gonna talk. Its what forums are about. But George has not in any way called for the abuse I have watched thrown at him. Who cares if he can straighten his arm, I bet he cant. Neither can Michael Todd. Can Breznk? It is one of the perils of long term pulling. But I will say if all his success comes from a "lock" position, I wonder why no one takes his wrist, or his fingers, or his rotator??? Hmmmm the lock must move around. I will appologize now Engin if I have disrepected you, but you do not have to disrespect George in order to make you point. You have made it already. And at 60 years old George has to prove nothing to noone!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by enginterzi on Mar 14, 2010 7:31:04 GMT -5
But I will say if all his success comes from a "lock" position, I wonder why no one takes his wrist, or his fingers, or his rotator??? Hmmmm the lock must move around. i think a little honesty would fix most arguments in the world.what rotator what wrist are you talking about ??i have seen such positions tens of times in his matches..keep deceiving yourself..
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Post by Guy Windover on Mar 14, 2010 8:28:09 GMT -5
Thank you for your openess Engin. I will stop this here as I can see there is no middle ground. I will say unlike you, I know George and I "RESPECT" George. Honesty??? You watch pictures and freeze frames and I watch the real thing from 1 foot away??? Now show the rest of the match where he regains his wrist and we shall see honesty. Or did he not this time? I really do not care. Overall. I am sure we can snapshot a few matches from anyone in the world and show a bad or less desired position. Does this mean all the time?? Comon.
I do not need to decieve myself thank you. I can call a spade a spade. George deserves RESPECT end of!!!!!
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Post by Travis Bagent on Mar 14, 2010 9:23:00 GMT -5
George could take 10,000 turkish citizens on and then wack the whole turk national team, END OF!!!!!!!!!!!
Engin's emotion alone on the suject should be a indicator of george's talent!!! TRUST ME HE WOULD BEAT RUSTUM EASILY!!!
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Post by Danial Worely on Mar 14, 2010 9:44:59 GMT -5
i really think travis is joking........right...........
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Post by Adam Cook on Mar 14, 2010 10:16:12 GMT -5
Its hard to tell sometimes...
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Post by Bob Paradis on Mar 14, 2010 10:31:36 GMT -5
i really think travis is joking........right........... ? I don't know.
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Post by Scott Wright on Mar 14, 2010 11:35:06 GMT -5
Guy, warrents more respect? People are talking about if he can beat Rustam. Some think he can and some think he can't. People are going to challenge his style, but no one can challenge his record. I fail to see the lack of respect. Being talked about in a match with Rustam shows how much respect people have for him IMO.
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