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Post by Rick Laton on Mar 14, 2010 13:03:04 GMT -5
So I guess that is a no? If we need to make it $3,000 for each of the Top 10 (That you choose) we can. I don't look at yours or anyone else's ranking. I didn't realize that you didn't have 176 pounds ranked. Either way, you pick 10 guys that are 176 and under that you think could beat George and they can pull for $3,000 each. That should cover there expenses (if they win). That is $30,000 potential dollars. Travis will host it. Surely you can find 10 international pullers willing to pull a 60 year old "Old Man" for $3,000. That should be "Easy Money" for them it appears. Line em up. We'll set it up.
By the way, George has NO IDEA that we are talking about this. I guess we would need to check with him but I feel sure that the Canada boys can set it up.
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Post by Rick Laton on Mar 14, 2010 13:05:37 GMT -5
Travis,please make this offer for Rustam but put 20.000 dollars to the table to make sure that he will be interested to pull.make it best of 3 and get ready to be embrassed as you did in istanbul. Now it seems that you are changing your mind. You have now changed it to only 1 (ONE) person that you are willing to bet on against George. I never said that George was the greatest ever or even the greatest in the world right now. I simply said that he deserves to be near the top of any list. George may not be able to beat Rustam but he will beat 99.9% of the people in the world that are 176 and under.
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Post by enginterzi on Mar 14, 2010 13:15:39 GMT -5
Rick,
the thing that you dont understand is that i am not a manager of the any of the top 10 ranked guys.i cant even get visa for USA but you ask my co-operation for an event in your back yard.i really dont know what to tell you.
maybe if i repeat again you can understand.if i were to organise an event it would be over here.has George ever armwrestled outside of N.America? i ask because some of you guys were talking about the balls.i have competed countless events in USA against John,Ron,Travis,Underwood,M.Todd,Bongard,Cobra,Patton,Hughes,Jason Remer,Tullier,RJ,Soliwada,O`Hara,Woelfel,Martel,Dan Victor and so many others that it would take half an hour to count all of them.
i have no problems with the size of my balls but when you cant push it then you just cant push it anymore.Arsen also could make 190 pounds and pull George in istanbul if George could once in his life time travel to prove Travis `the wrong guesser` Bagent to be right once in his life time.i bet he would do it for 5.000.
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Post by enginterzi on Mar 14, 2010 13:19:33 GMT -5
.he deserves to be mentioned the best 176 in N.America and possibly one of the best in the world under 176 but not proven yet. . dont get me wrong,he may even win a WAF title but this needs to be proven.this year Rustam goes up to 85kg and now he has a great chance to win at 176s in WAF USA.. Rick,did i change my opinion or you are lying ?
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Post by Max Moore on Mar 14, 2010 14:26:30 GMT -5
Rick, the thing that you dont understand is that i am not a manager of the any of the top 10 ranked guys.i cant even get visa for USA but you ask my co-operation for an event in your back yard.i really dont know what to tell you. maybe if i repeat again you can understand.if i were to organise an event it would be over here.has George ever armwrestled outside of N.America? i ask because some of you guys were talking about the balls.i have competed countless events in USA against John,Ron,Travis,Underwood,M.Todd,Bongard,Cobra,Patton,Hughes,Jason Remer,Tullier,RJ,Soliwada,O`Hara,Woelfel,Martel,Dan Victor and so many others that it would take half an hour to count all of them. i have no problems with the size of my balls but when you cant push it then you just cant push it anymore.Arsen also could make 190 pounds and pull George in istanbul if George could once in his life time travel to prove Travis `the wrong guesser` Bagent to be right once in his life time.i bet he would do it for 5.000. i agree with your sentiments Engin.... George should travel to Europe (Istanbul?) to participate if this should take place. certainly with this many Crazy George supporters they would have no problem helping fund his trip. if htey are willing to put up a possible 30,000 dollars!!! WOW! surely George would be willing if this was arranged! i would love to see that event! man what entertainment! i think he could beat some and he would lose to some.....but it would be great for the sport and the fans! this topic has been discussed more than i can count in my short 3 years in armwrestling and it should be put to rest! make it happen! for that kinda money you could get ANY puller you wanted from any where in the world to attend! and i dont blame you Engin at all for the way you feel toward George's armwrestling. your saying in your signature speaks how you feel "proof is in your results" and saying someone belongs or can beat other WAF or EAF champions that hasnt proven goes against your way of thinking and logic itself. i agree with you.
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Post by Brian Tamblyn on Mar 14, 2010 16:47:16 GMT -5
I'm probably not the best person to post on this topic but I have been good friends with George for many years and every year he wins the Arnolds his name gets dragged through the mud and it kind of irritates me. People either like the guy or they don't, some find him arrogant because he's so passionate about the sport when actually the opposite is true. My word doesn't mean squat but believe me the man is STRONG, I have trained with him and he left me in the dust and anyone who doesn't believe it.... Go train with with the man!!! He's a nice enough guy he'd welcome just about anyone to train with him. Prepare to be humiliated. As far as his style goes I know Engin doesn't like it cause he feels it causes injuries but I can name lots of sucessful armwrestlers who pull the same way. Who cares, it works well obviously for some. I talked with Charlie Minell about George and Rustam pulling in the summer and personally would love to see it happen and I know George would like to do it too. Will it ever? Doubt it but over over 6 rounds I know who my $1000 would be on.
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Post by Rob Baker on Mar 16, 2010 17:42:42 GMT -5
I def Agree with Engin, who in the heck is able to make some unrealistic gains at that age , and as far as many others pulling that way please post video of someone in the losing pos. and with there hand rolled flat out and there tricep on the pad that can sit there ALL DAY without burning out and coming back for the win i cant recall a single person , and if he has been pulling for 30 years he should certainly have many titles spanning over that time. and just for the record im not judjing his personallity just the matches that i have seen .
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Post by Marcelo Palacios on Mar 17, 2010 0:03:09 GMT -5
Should have many titles? MA Rob...................Robby..................WAKE UP......... stop smoking that stuff man, not good for you.....lmao the dude wins 99.9 percent of the tournaments he goes to aaaaahhhhhh Rob you made me laugh today THANK YOU...
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Post by Rob Baker on Mar 17, 2010 9:35:09 GMT -5
Should have many titles? MA Rob...................Robby..................WAKE UP......... stop smoking that stuff man, not good for you.....lmao the dude wins 99.9 percent of the tournaments he goes to aaaaahhhhhh Rob you made me laugh today THANK YOU... Hey Listen I dont smoke anything not even cigarettes nor do i drink , I never said that he does not win, I was asking where his titles were back in the 80's and 90's, I am a very logical person and logic tells me that anyone with that type of strength at that age with his build should certainly be able to pull left arm as well and be extremly competetive . I mean heck even a nobody such as myself will challenge him left . If it is nothing but some secret patented style and not a disablity he should have no problem left arm as well .
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Post by Marcelo Palacios on Mar 17, 2010 11:27:53 GMT -5
Ohh yeah you are very logical, WELL!!! to bad you don't drink... thats ok I'll have a drink for you CHEERS
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Post by Josh Handeland on Mar 17, 2010 17:38:58 GMT -5
Maybe he doesn't train his left...
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Post by Justin Kopa on Mar 17, 2010 17:55:29 GMT -5
Maybe he doesn't train his left... Dont worry Josh...Baker's Jealous like every other George hater
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Post by Brian Gabriel on Mar 21, 2010 22:31:48 GMT -5
here we go again..i asked him to straight his arm at 2005 MG classic..he said he was tired and he couldnt do it..then at the Arnolds year or couple of years ago he couldnt do it when Bob Brown asked him to do..unless i see with my own eyes i dont buy that story...why dont someone film him straighting his arm.. Hello Engin, i was wondering if you watched the Antony DAll'Antonia video with his match against George? wouldn't you say that George's arm is pretty straight?
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Post by enginterzi on Mar 22, 2010 4:54:14 GMT -5
ok,i wasnt sure if i should answer this or not.but since i was directly asked then i thought i should answer. if you mean this match then no.his hand is about 3 inches higher than the elbow pad (his wrist is bent back and that is why his hand level is below his wrist what is end of his arm)and his shoulder is about 8 inches higher than the elbow pad.how could that be straight? he only did not lower his shoulder parellel with the elbow pad (which is not a foul but about the limit for foul)as he usually does. btw that is another toprolled wrist and turned rotator position of George,which is usuall to me but unusual to some others who claimed his wrist and rotator are also incredibly strong. here are a few bent wrist positions more only from one event; my friend Dursun vs George (this happenned twice at same event); if i had 100 competetion pictures of George from different matches then i could show about 20 curled rotator and 50 bent wrist picture of George,that he won.strong outside pullers win with the wrist & rotator controls,if they lose the control then they lose the match.if what George has,is a lock that came from years of pulling,but not from an injury then its great.but again i just wish that years of pulling could also provide a strong wrist & rotator to him as well. that years of pulling opinion seems to be a theory which works only for George as no other armwrestler is getting better and better after their 50s (which is against the nature anyways).
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Post by Eric Williamson on Mar 22, 2010 7:13:58 GMT -5
I think Anthony's method is just about the only way to beat George, by dominating his rotator (coupled with a fast hit, of course). Anthony's cupping strength is apparently beastly, as he always seems to get that part of his move in completely.
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