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Post by Anthony Edens on Jul 24, 2011 7:05:28 GMT -5
Definitely looks like it lived up to the hype. Very exciting videos.
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Post by Tomas Micka on Jul 24, 2011 7:30:30 GMT -5
I guess Neil won't be happy about posting the vids.. But great matches.
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Post by Rob Vigeant Jr. on Jul 24, 2011 8:37:47 GMT -5
I'll say it......I was way wrong.
Big congrats to MIKE, you obviously put in the work and are top tier !
congrats to Devon also, great control and on another win.
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Post by John Roberts on Jul 24, 2011 9:08:32 GMT -5
Class acts, both of these guys.
If you are looking for a hero or mentor in this sport pick one of these men. Great show of sportsmanship and respect towards each other. Both are winners in my eyes
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 24, 2011 9:22:54 GMT -5
Michael again proved that he is the guy whom i thought.huge heart & unlimited goals. ok A.K for you i will guess with numbers.. 6-0 or 5-1 Devon "with what i know till today" we all know that NORMALLY Devon should be the clear favorite of this match since the league that he belongs has been 1 above the league that Michael Todd has belonged in most of his career. but the new version of Michael Todd gave us some signs in last Arnolds,that he is about to belong to that very elite league that i mentioned above.i remember that after John performed below this elite league in 2004 Zloty and 2005 Vegas he gained some weight for 2005 Zloty and performed good but not so great.but it was only beginning and with 2006 Vegas he was right above anyone by almost becoming a heavyweight sized. with the shape that M.Todd was in Arnolds i do not give Michael any chance to beat Devon as a result of this supermatch. but the question is,how much better is Michael now compared to his Arnold shape?. Devon has stronger wrist and with better control while Michael has ability of pulling in any position.from this i understand that if Michael somehow unables Devon's total wrist control by keeping him neutral wrist position then Michael has a chance to win the match by forcing Devon to play a game which Michael has played more than anyone else with success. .if he is as good as Arnolds then i believe Devon will win.but if Michael progressed as good as John progressed from 2005 Zloty to 2006 Vegas ( gaining weight and becoming solid at that weight are different things) then i believe Michael will have potential to surprise us. it is a very big danger for athletes who pulls with hand control,to be put neutral wrist position by a puller who can pull in any position very effectively. but still Devon has been depending on his hand control and if he can not have this control then he may find himself in a game that he has not played for years,while Michael is the MASTER of such game. even if Devon may not have a wrist control still his general endurance is at least as great as Michael's endurance if not better. because of his increased size i believe Michael's horse power is increased and this gives me the idea that Michael has chance to apply his game plan. from another side muscle endurance and joint endurance are different things. muscle can get pumped quickly while a guy who pulls with his joints can pull much longer time. so Devon has higher chance in every match Devon having wrist control while Michael has higher chance in every match that he brings Devon into his flat wrist game. it is up to the strength level of the athletes at the start,to determine which game they will play.
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 24, 2011 9:48:03 GMT -5
1. Devon Larratt, CAN 2. Jerry Cadorette, USA 3. Gadzimurat Omarov, RUS 4. Denis Cyplenkov, RUS 5. Andrey Pushkar, UKR 6. Michael Todd, USA 7. Richard Lupkes, USA 8. Tim Bresnan, USA 9. Ferit Osmanli, TUR 10. Dave Chaffee, USA
no one for sure knows if Devon can beat Jerry, Omarov,Cyplenkov or Pushkar since they never met,while Cyplenkov beat M.Todd.Michael looked stronger against Devon compared to his Arnolds shape but it is only an opinion.so it is hard to rank Michael over the guys who are ranked above him.i could rank Michael higher only if Devon would have met and dominate any of the guys who are ranked above M.Todd.
i believe that only Zloty can give us the answers,but my personal opinion is that Pushkar can beat Devon,but the way that results happenned makes Devon no 1 in the world until its proven otherwise.i believe M.Todd would beat Omarov who beat Cyplenkov who has speed problem and was smaller than his 2010 ZLOTY shape when he lost to Omarov.
Pushkar is my favorite against anyone including Cyplenkov.Cyplenkov beat him about a month before WAF,so their preparations were not in equal conditions..
it is time for Denis and Andrei to meet Devon and Jerry.
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Michael Ignatz
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Tennessee Armwrestling Association
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Post by Michael Ignatz on Jul 24, 2011 9:51:18 GMT -5
Id love to see those matches Engin!
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 24, 2011 9:59:19 GMT -5
i have a feeling that people are intentionally staying away from these meetings.i think the problem is about where these matches will happen.Denis travelled to American's back yard twice,John traveled to eastern European back yard many times..Pushkar traveled to 2008-2010 WAFs in Canada and USA..Ferit pulled many times in USA...so i think it would be great to see Devon and Jerry in the eastern territory..
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Bart Wood
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Post by Bart Wood on Jul 24, 2011 10:01:14 GMT -5
Hats off to to both guys! I sure hope both make it to the Zoloty which could be very interesting.Maybe a North American champ.
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 24, 2011 10:19:09 GMT -5
Michael to win the 3. round after this round is nothing but incredible.he realised that he had to come back to table to win the match and he did it.first 3 rounds look like a chess game.a lot of mental war happenned and both pullers showed their skills.Michael used a lot of muscle strength while Devon tries to not to lose hand control with joint lock support behind his hand.Michael must have been out of gas against this king of the endurance.i enjoyed first 3 rounds but not sure if there was any elbow raising problems with Michael or not.his shoulder goes below table but from the camera angle it is hard to say if it is neutral position or a bit winning side,which is not a foul. anyways it was a great supermatch from what i see.congratulations to both athletes !
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Post by Joe Rozbora on Jul 24, 2011 10:57:20 GMT -5
1. Devon Larratt, CAN 2. Jerry Cadorette, USA 3. Gadzimurat Omarov, RUS 4. Denis Cyplenkov, RUS 5. Andrey Pushkar, UKR 6. Michael Todd, USA 7. Richard Lupkes, USA 8. Tim Bresnan, USA 9. Ferit Osmanli, TUR 10. Dave Chaffee, USA no one for sure knows if Devon can beat Jerry, Omarov,Cyplenkov or Pushkar since they never met,while Cyplenkov beat M.Todd.Michael looked stronger against Devon compared to his Arnolds shape but it is only an opinion.so it is hard to rank Michael over the guys who are ranked above him.i could rank Michael higher only if Devon would have met and dominate any of the guys who are ranked above M.Todd. i believe that only Zloty can give us the answers,but my personal opinion is that Pushkar can beat Devon,but the way that results happenned makes Devon no 1 in the world until its proven otherwise.i believe M.Todd would beat Omarov who beat Cyplenkov who has speed problem and was smaller than his 2010 ZLOTY shape when he lost to Omarov. Pushkar is my favorite against anyone including Cyplenkov.Cyplenkov beat him about a month before WAF,so their preparations were not in equal conditions.. it is time for Denis and Andrei to meet Devon and Jerry. Engin your ranking is pretty clear ,done!!
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Post by Scott Wright on Jul 24, 2011 10:57:41 GMT -5
Neil is going to be pissed about those videos, lol. Martin, I would take those down ASAP if I were you.
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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Jul 24, 2011 11:00:23 GMT -5
TIM BRESNAN you called it...... ......"Todd hanging back a lot to keep his angle." ......" that Devon won his matches with a toproll while Micheal tried to defend himself BY LEANING BACKWARDS. " WOW.....Funny thing, when "Crazy" George armwrestles, no one describes it quite like these 2 statements above......Just saying..
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Post by Charlie Minell on Jul 24, 2011 11:13:25 GMT -5
I was just telling what happened. Others can take care of the judging.. I wouldn't judge George for pulling like he does either.
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 24, 2011 11:24:18 GMT -5
i enjoyed first 3 rounds but not sure if there was any elbow raising problems with Michael or not. his shoulder goes below table but from the camera angle it is hard to say if it is neutral position or a bit winning side,which is not a foul. 2) Competitors cannot drop the competing shoulder below the level of the elbow pad when in a neutral or losing position. This will be considered a dangerous position. The neutral position defined as the starting position down to 2/3 of the way to the losing side of the table.
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