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Post by Andrew Bieganski on Jan 13, 2012 4:02:30 GMT -5
I guess i coulda asked this in the medical part. But i am a huge fan of baseball and every year it seems at least every team has at least one pitcher tear their ulnar collateral legiment and that requires tommy john. My question is how often does this happen in armwrestling? And do you come back the same cuz i know some pitchers never have the velocity (power) they had before
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Post by Giles Russell on Jan 13, 2012 7:01:36 GMT -5
After x-rays and an MRI in Dec, I was told by my ortho that I may need it. He said my UCL has been over stretched and is "slack" for lack of a better term. Not sure about going under the knife just so I can armwrestle better tho. But, from what I have read and what he told me it has a 90% success rate for pitchers and they usually do come back stronger. It's very expensive and there's 1 year of recovery time. I'm gonna have to just wait and see how things go. I can function in day to day life with my elbow so, I'm weighing my options.
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Post by John Milne on Jan 13, 2012 8:21:46 GMT -5
Is it more common to have medial damage than ulnar in AW?
This was my understanding but of course I'm no doctor.
Giles, that's quite a spot you're in. I wish you the best. Have you any idea how you stretched it? Was it from a joint lock position? Was it from attacking or defending? I know you may have no idea but I thought I'd ask.
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Post by Rick Laton on Jan 13, 2012 21:48:04 GMT -5
I've got something major going on with the outside of my elbow as well. I had surgery to screw one of the inside tendons back on the bone in 2002 but now the outside is killing me. If I lock at 90 degrees and let down slowly you can hear stuff just grinding like crazy. It hurts some to hook but WAY more if I just go straight side. It's not a sore pain, it's a sharp pain that just shuts your arm down. You can't pull through it. I can't explain it but when it starts hurting my arm just lets up. I guess it's my body protecting itself. I didn't pull for about a month before my last tournament and ate 12 Advil a day leading up to it. It felt pretty good but I think I just masked the pain. Afterwords it was done. I haven't pulled since and it isn't any better. Planning on getting an MRI when I can find time. Giles, I'm about like you. It doesn't hurt BADLY in everyday life but it's definitely annoying. Especially taking the fact that I use my arms all day every day to get around. I'm dreading having it fixed.
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Post by Giles Russell on Jan 13, 2012 22:10:02 GMT -5
Originally it was from defensive hook pulling. It popped while I was holding on in a very even "afterpull" match. That was in 09. Since then I've only had a 1 bullet in my gun. lol. I've tried to rehab it our way, but I love pulling too much to stop for a long period of time. So, I've continued to beat it up on and off since then. My nerves/tendon actually buldges out between my funny bone and the point of my elbow. Decisions....decisions.....
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Post by Robert Miller on Jan 13, 2012 22:23:56 GMT -5
Sorry to hear of the injury Giles... good luck w/it bud and Gods speed!!
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Post by John Milne on Jan 14, 2012 1:10:34 GMT -5
Giles, the reason I asked is because I suspect mine is damaged and it's from the defensive side of the table. I suspected as such.
I'm getting it looked at when I get some time off work.
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Post by Giles Russell on Jan 14, 2012 1:23:42 GMT -5
MRI showed no tears or detached tendons (which surprised me). All it concluded was that there was an elbow sprain. The x-ray showed that my funny bone had grown a considerable amount of new bone on the inside where the tendon attaches and the doc said that was my body trying to protect that tendon.
The way he diagnosed that I may need TJ surgery was from what I told him and what he felt/saw with his eyes. When I'm pulling in a hook there usually a pop (not real painful) above the inside of my elbow (between the funny bone and point of my elbow) on the bottom of my forearm. After that, I lose most all the good in my arm and feel real vulnerable to something snapping. They say that's exactly what happens to the baseball pitchers. I also visibly have a bulge on the inside of my elbow that ain't normal.
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Post by Andrew Bieganski on Jan 14, 2012 4:09:59 GMT -5
Im kinda in the same boat as rick. Only i hurt it on the offensive side. I pull a really weird way but and i when i hurt my elbow it was at practice in a totally square (normal) position. I am so addicted to armwrestlin i cant stop training but i just dont feel like myself. I also feel if i miss a week of practice i lost what i gained the last month.
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Post by Justin Kerns on Jan 16, 2012 13:17:10 GMT -5
Guy Ive never competted in armwrestling but I have years of weighting an boxing in my background an I can tell u boxers experience alot of elbow trouble an I think its from neglecting proper prehab an rehab. I would highly recommend that before u armwrestle to warmup first then specific dynamic armwrestling warmups before practice then after practice general cooldown followed by foamrolling an stretching full a full min of each stretch. I believe this often neglected in every sportan really should be a priority everyday to stay healthy an strong longterm.
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