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Post by Gabe Moore on Feb 5, 2012 9:56:01 GMT -5
Change is inevitable. Change can be uncomfortable, at first, but is needed.
Might I dare propose a permanent change. A change that could easily raise $50k for the Olympic bid....and/or take our sport to the next level.
Here it goes...
What if each state had a $100 annual membership fee for competitors who want to enter the open/pro classes?
The members would receive a membership card, good for 1 year, to show at each tournament within their respective state. A competitor may not pull in the open/pro classes without this membership. If a competitor has not paid their dues and wants to compete in the open/pro classes at a specified tournament, then they would be able to sign up and pay their dues on the day of the tourney, or before.
If a competitor shows from another state, he must have a membership in their respective state. In other words, the membership is national and would be good in any tournament held in the US.
There would be minimum requirements in order to qualify for this membership. For example, a competitor would need to compete in a minimum 3 tournaments at the amateur level, placing in the top 3 in at least 2 events.
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All tournaments held within the state, seeking recognition through the organization, would be required to submit the number of entries and a certain percentage(10%) of the revenue to a board of directors.
All membership dues and tournament revenue would be managed by a board of directors, elected by the members. This board would be up for review every 2 years.
The revenue generated would go towards
1. saving for the $50k requirement for an Olympic bid;
2. paying for nationally ranked competitors to travel to state and national tournaments.
3. advertising for state/national tournaments
4. anything needed to gain respect as a sport
These ideas are to be built from..I'm open to suggestions. However, we may strongly consider beginning this process, or something similar, in Texas.
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Post by Trapper Saltzman on Feb 5, 2012 10:55:35 GMT -5
I'm not rich by any means, bairly scrappen by,,,,,,, But I would find a way to pay it....and so far its looking like a good push for our goals as becoming a Real Olympic Sport.
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Post by Gabe Moore on Feb 5, 2012 11:03:37 GMT -5
Good point Saltzman....
Even if its a $50 annual fee....something is better than what we have now....which is nothing. Maybe we need to take a poll to see where everyone would be most comfortable.
On another note...who are the leaders of our sport? Who do we propose these ideas to? Is there a board of directors? Is there a panel to propose, discuss and put in motion new ideas that could tremendously grow the sport? Anyone out there?
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Post by Robert Wimbley on Feb 13, 2012 3:08:46 GMT -5
Great idea!!!! But what Armwrestling Association is going to govern this. And every state will have to be sanctioned under one Association and their rules. What happens to everyone else AAA, NAL, PAL, USA, USAA? I am all about getting our sport into the Olympics, I would pay $200 a year to be a card carrying member, I just think we have more than $50k to worry about.
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Post by Toddzilla on Feb 13, 2012 9:41:56 GMT -5
More rules !
More fees !
More bureaucracy !
Same trophies !
Implement this and within 24 hours someone will start an "Outlaw" Arm Wrestling league.
Less rules!
Less fees!
Less bureacracy!
Prize money!
Then there will be a muffled "popping" sound as the air rushes in to fill your now vacated space that once contained all your top talent.
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Post by Jerry Herron on Feb 13, 2012 10:00:44 GMT -5
gabe you have great ideas but to be honest i am not for paying for top pullers to come to the tournaments it i feel they can pay there own way all that is going to do is benifit yall it helps us none once again yall cant afford to pay these top guys to come and we must pay give yall money to let you look like ur doing something but all ur doing is taking from us to help you i will not do it
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Post by Jim Wagner on Feb 13, 2012 10:14:21 GMT -5
More rules ! More fees ! More bureaucracy ! Same trophies ! Implement this and within 24 hours someone will start an "Outlaw" Arm Wrestling league. Less rules! Less fees! Less bureacracy! Prize money! Then there will be a muffled "popping" sound as the air rushes in to fill your now vacated space that once contained all your top talent. the short guy is correct |
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Post by Gabe Moore on Feb 13, 2012 10:43:23 GMT -5
Nah...I don't think anyone, including myself, would want rules, limitations, etc.
After speaking with several competitors at the AL State tourney last wknd, all were in favor of a proposal to have some sort of "fund" for our sport.
For example, one of the competitors I spoke with won the World title in his weight class about 15 yrs ago. He said he had to pay for the trip to Europe OUT OF HIS OWN POCKET. Why? Why should anyone representing our country need to pay for such a prestigious trip?
My point is this: lets create a fund that can pay for competitors' travel overseas....or, to pay for top ranked pullers to travel nationally to state or national tourneys...or whatever we need to promote the sport.
The easiest way to do this would be to have a "pro" membership card...maybe it's a $50 lifetime membership fee...whatever...
this card would be good at all state tourneys in the nation, but required if someone wants to pull in the pro/open classes.
I don't know how it would be managed, or how we would decide...it's a basic idea...and a solution to a financial problem.
$50 x 5,000 pullers = $250,000....
It's not that myself or anyone needs such a card to call themselves a "pro". I am by no means a top tier pro. However, it is solely for the sport.
Ideas are what make the world turn. I feel strongly about it. However, if the majority do not, then I'm sure we can solve it another way...if so, let this thread be your idea.
Let's brainstorm...especially if you don't agree with me...which is ok.
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Post by Jerry Herron on Feb 13, 2012 12:56:36 GMT -5
yea but gabe the sport is not in need for cash that is what it seems u are after it is in need of structure and we all we keep hearing is lets send the top 10 pullers here and there and$50 for a card . we are not on here looking to give yall money to pull if any thing raise the entery fee because that is the only way you will get everyone to pay u money who pulls .but MARK MY WORDS MONEY IS NOT THE PROBLEM WE HAVE AT HAND .and u keep posting thread after thread and keep getting the same answer .and is nt it mike meadors place to make the desions for texas
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Post by Bill Collins on Feb 13, 2012 13:08:37 GMT -5
There is a crap load more political stuff than just coming up with 50K....
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Post by Jerry Herron on Feb 13, 2012 13:10:30 GMT -5
my point
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Post by Trapper Saltzman on Feb 13, 2012 13:36:02 GMT -5
Wow,,,How bout if you don't want the Olympics you start taking up pocket pool.
You have another guy with an (IDEA) to advance our sport to the top of its potential.
No his Idea isn't written and handed down by god. So ther for it can be altered, but its a
great start in the right direction.
Bill there isn't much more than the $ Issue in my mind after all the background reading and b.s I have come to learn about the WAF and for ther own personal lack of making this not succeed do to control and money.
Politics will be eventually straightend out. If we Unite form one overall Assosiation so to speak to rull over all others. yes this will piss off the high ups for the most part becouse people don't like being told no when they already no they should.
I have alot more to say but am pressed for time. Gabe you are on the rite track buddy!
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Post by Trapper Saltzman on Feb 13, 2012 13:37:02 GMT -5
The WAF has no reason to push for the Olympics if it doesn't bennefit them. Period.
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Post by Jerry Herron on Feb 13, 2012 13:57:37 GMT -5
ur right he is off to a good start but i thing he is going at it the wrong way
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Post by David Owens on Feb 13, 2012 14:14:05 GMT -5
Yawn.......we've kinda been through all this, I'm getting bored let's just skip to the end where everyone tells you why its not possible, you get very little support and then you give up
Sorry guys I've just seen this dead horse beat into nothingness along with many others, I'm over it
There are many ways you can help the sport on a much smaller level and still make a great impact, watch my interview on armtv for one way......but really this is going no where
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