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Post by Rick Laton on Aug 25, 2012 19:09:28 GMT -5
Prayers for Kirt Bryce, one of our NC pullers as he broke his right arm today at practice.
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Post by John Wilson on Aug 25, 2012 19:12:46 GMT -5
Man, that really stinks. Best wishes
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Post by Vazgen Soghoyan on Aug 25, 2012 19:18:43 GMT -5
I can't understand how people can brake arms in a practice. There is always a way to avoid it. It's just a practice... . In practice people learn how to get better, but some of us just try to beat each other. But the injury happened already, now we can pray for him to get well faster. And to learn on mistakes. I hope his older mates will help him to come back soon. Need some time... . Get well soon.
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Post by Mike Giannelli on Aug 25, 2012 20:06:11 GMT -5
Rick, hows he doing? From my angle, it looked like Kirt was slighly underneath his arm, close to pinning Bucky. Bucky started bringing him back up, and then it snapped. Kirt didn't appear to be a bad position by any means.
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Post by Erick "Zap" Szczap on Aug 25, 2012 21:24:13 GMT -5
I've heard some people say he was pressing with his hand outside of his shoulder, really stressing the humerus. I've heard others say he wasn't in bad position. I think the bigger thing is that Kirt is a massive mountain of muscle but he's pretty new to armwrestling, which can be a recipe for disaster, when all that power gets going in a bad direction and the bone can't handle the load.
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Post by Giles Russell on Aug 25, 2012 21:32:38 GMT -5
Is that the guy that is friends with bucky? If so, sorry to hear. Man it really sucks being new in this sport. You are a high risk in the beginning for sure. Gonna be hard to ever get the masses involved with that monster always lurking for the novice guys/gals.
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Post by Mike West on Aug 25, 2012 22:35:08 GMT -5
Sorry to hear that. Arms don't break in "good positions".
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Post by Robert Miller on Aug 25, 2012 22:54:42 GMT -5
Well said Erick... IMO that's exactly what happened. He basically broke his own arm by hitting into Buckys arm. His had Bucky in a losing position as he was just letting Kirt work... he started surging in that position & got outside is shoulder rather quickly. That's when the break occurred. Anyways heal up quick big guy & God speed!!
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Post by Rick Laton on Aug 25, 2012 22:56:31 GMT -5
I'm not sure guys. I left messages but have not heard. Bucky took him to the hospital and when his wife got there he left. I couldn't go to the hospital because I had two guys counting on me to get them back home. I told them I thought that I would go to Carolina's Medical Center instead of Gaston Memorial. I told him I would ask for the man that handles the Panthers. I would want the best if it were me, not some ER guy who is working the weekend shift. Nothing wrong with the ER guys, just would want someone with experience with possible nerve damage. The paramedics acted like IDIOTS! We knew WAY more than they did. The first question out of their mouths (after waiting on them for 30 minutes) was if we wanted to take him to the hospital or wanted them to take him. Kirt said" What the ...... you think we called you for?" He ended up just riding with Bucky. They were about USELESS. I'll give more info when I know. It really sucks. He would have been a great one in a few years I believe.
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Post by Ed "Bam" Moehle on Aug 25, 2012 23:23:57 GMT -5
Sorry to hear
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Post by Steve Inzalaco on Aug 26, 2012 0:11:34 GMT -5
Hope he recovers well. Vaz...depending on the body and person it can happen. Nobody is perfect my friend.
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Post by David Owens on Aug 26, 2012 0:42:00 GMT -5
Sorry to hear that. Arms don't break in "good positions". I'm sorry to hear as well Having said that I agree with Mike and Vazgen, I'm not really sure why some people practice like they are pulling for the good medal at worlds but practice really should be for learning what to do and what NOT to do, working technique not trying to beat each other. Everytime I hear about and arm break it makes me think of quiting especially the promoting side because I have saw arms break on people who were in the sport because of me and that feeling makes me sick. To Mike's point, if you have your shoulder square with your ARM (not with the table, you can be square to the table and still be in a bad position) it is next to impossible to break your arm because if you are square to it your arm naturally opens up in the direction, don't believer me ? Stack as much weight on a dumbell as you want and it will open you up from a curl position but NEVER break your arm........unfortunately side pressure which is not a natural motion for your arm is a huge part of our sport and a large reason for many breaks we see, but you also have to consider your direction/opponants direction/hand position sometimes the position looks "good" but the direction is bad Side note - my wife broke her arm with he shoulders square to the table and eyes on her hands back then I would have said she was in good position but I failed her In terms of letting her know what directions were safe or not safe and 99% of the time pulling with a flopped wrist is asking for trouble jmo
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Post by Bull Dog Madore on Aug 26, 2012 5:23:28 GMT -5
I wish you the speediest of recovery brother. Vary scarey man to think of how quickly things can take a turn for the worse at a practice. Definitely puts me mentally on safety first mode.
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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Aug 26, 2012 6:34:46 GMT -5
Good luck, hope it works out. For the millionth time.....yes, most breaks r in bad positions, BUT there r exceptions to the rule....YES, u can be squared to the table, in a winning position ( I was and topping too, hi, Mr. Snook..lol), pinning someone ( seen it at Jason vales house, he was a Reporter), NOT in a breakarm position, not hand behind you, pulling up from a losing position ( like what happened at the 98 AAAs), I think you get the pt.. Side pressure IS a natural motion for ur arm....,Dave, I am surprised at u for that one...
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Post by Mike West on Aug 26, 2012 7:32:19 GMT -5
Hand outside of the shoulder is bad, but it's not so much the position (square or not), it's where you are applying the pressure. You can be square to your arm, but start pushing with your shoulder and it can snap before your hand gets outside of your shoulder.
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