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Post by Johnny Edwards on Dec 5, 2012 11:35:51 GMT -5
James Retarides is another one. In my mind there aren't many most technical guys in the US now. knowledgeable yes but applying it consistently at the highest level?
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Post by Las Botha on Dec 5, 2012 11:39:49 GMT -5
Engin Terzi wrote:
Yes, we lumped that readiness into preparation early on in this thread, John Wilson and myself. Some names would have been nice, but no doubt Brzenk tops the list on that one. Are you sure this is the reason Larratt avoids tournaments? Is it the central reason? I can't argue that determining the best has to come from a different format.
There could perhaps be a greater element of technicality to Larratt's general percieved endurance that is not just his physical endurance capablity, which is part of the topic of this thread, and I mentioned why a few pages back.
Thanks for taking the time to explain, Engin. Leaves us with something to ponder. Perhaps I'll get back to that one, if learn anything.
Thank you, I'm glad we could clear that up ;D Oh, Engin, that hurt... just a little bit.
It might be up to others to take that argument forward. I do recall that when questioned on a rematch with a "healthy John Brzenk", Larratt said that he believes that John needed to address his wrist issue, but also that classes are becoming more competitive and that he (Larratt) believes that there is a "new age" in armwrestling and that the elites will be dominated by the heavyweights and that he is a "genuine" heavyweight, obviously as opposed to Brzenk. Not withstanding he paid due respect to Brzenk as the greatest that has ever lived.
what I'm saying is that I tend to agree with his statement. It helps us all the listen to the opinion of other elites though.
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Post by Buddy Griffiths on Dec 5, 2012 11:41:48 GMT -5
Everybody that I have seen on this thread has not even mention pound for pound the best right now and that is Todd Hutchings, I saw Todd at Unifieds this year and it sure looked like he has more than just an "A" game he has a "B" game as well ! His toproll looked just as good as his press, and we all saw what he did with Zoliovs hook ! He has got to be the most complete armwrestler we have in the States !
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Post by Las Botha on Dec 5, 2012 11:44:57 GMT -5
Everybody that I have seen on this thread has not even mention pound for pound the best right now and that is Todd Hutchings, I saw Todd at Unifieds this year and it sure looked like he has more than just an "A" game he has a "B" game as well ! His toproll looked just as good as his press, and we all saw what he did with Zoliovs hook ! He has got to be the most complete armwrestler we have in the States ! Todd Hutchings is my favourite US puller, it's a pity there isn't more material available on him on the net.
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Post by Las Botha on Dec 5, 2012 11:52:24 GMT -5
Enging Terzi wrote:
I read every word you say Engin, and I've read those words more than once before. The 2014 Sochi Winter olympics couldn't come sooner. But, Voevoda might dominate tournament, how would he fare on your rankings? That's another matter altogether, using strong words such as "dominates".
That would be something that most of us would be interested in, we look forward to it, Engin. It could bury some misconceptions.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Dec 5, 2012 15:15:33 GMT -5
Toddzilla is definitely one of our best overall pullers at the moment. He just has old man strength though. Right Todd??
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Post by John Milne on Dec 5, 2012 16:47:05 GMT -5
This is one of the best threads I've ever enjoyed reading. Please carry on discussions. Mr. Wilson (as always) it's a pleasure reading your posts and Mr. Botha you are becoming a (long winded) but favourite poster of mine as well. Btw, Mr. Wilson - I'll send you that 10 bucks I owe you for placing my name on your list
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Post by Hungry Hippo on Dec 5, 2012 17:25:27 GMT -5
John schipes
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Post by Las Botha on Dec 5, 2012 18:30:15 GMT -5
This is one of the best threads I've ever enjoyed reading. Please carry on discussions. Mr. Wilson (as always) it's a pleasure reading your posts and Mr. Botha you are becoming a (long winded) but favourite poster of mine as well. Hi John, For a small monthly subscription fee, I'll drop the reader's digest version of all my posts into your PM inbox every morning. I know what you're thinking: "Boy, he must be fun at parties".Reading my posts, some of you may lose consciousness, some of you may never return to the Northeast Message Board... but it is a sacrifice I am willing to make. Yes, that is a Shrek reference, one that Arsen Liliev can really indentify with. Arsen is like an onion, he doesn't just make people cry, he has layers too. Show some respect! _________________________ Unfortunately there is only so much that could be said in such a thread. At some point we need to see examples in action. It would be nice if we could record a Skype conference call session with top experts from around the world, suh as Engin and John (some seem to have time on their hands open for such discussion) and discuss certain topics which are prepared, such as these, and for which they prepare, some debating etc. Maybe someday...
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Post by John Parton on Dec 5, 2012 19:20:14 GMT -5
of all time definitely Dave Patton Not only did he have a knack for finding your weakness, but an amazing ability to redirect motion away from his own. Watching John Pull later was like watching Dave except John became much stronger. Engin definitely is in there as is Andrew and Fisher. One name I have seen mentioned is my old friend Bob Brown. I'm hoping his arm continues to heal and if it does I expect to see great things from him again! I will say for myself and pulling I tried to make the other guy play my game and that doesn't just take technique you have to have the strength to back it up. I wish it wasn't so expensive to get out of here so I could come and play more often
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Post by Anthony Edens on Dec 6, 2012 1:20:26 GMT -5
The two that I've seen make adjustments mid tournament and beat top level competition with technique (finding a weakness in their opponent) are: Bill Logsdon and Corey Miller.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Dec 6, 2012 17:37:56 GMT -5
Beginning, 10:41, 16:51, 20:32,
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Dec 6, 2012 17:38:13 GMT -5
Especially the transition in the Sunny match.
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Post by Las Botha on Dec 6, 2012 19:34:50 GMT -5
What goes bump in the night? Johnny Edwards in his own thread. LOL
Yeah Johnny, Chad's toproll reminds me of a crocodile roll (the "deathroll" employed by crocodiles to drown and tear their hapless prey apart). The snippets you marked are probably one of the most recognisable examples of technique coupled with power, that even a novice could appreciate.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Dec 6, 2012 21:13:00 GMT -5
He has been doing it for a long time. Has also pulled some of the best over the years.
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