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Post by Jeff Janes on Jul 9, 2013 4:35:01 GMT -5
This question was asked to me yesterday and I want to know what you would do. If you has a sponsor for $50,000.00 how would you use the money? If you desired to grow the sport, how could you invest the money into arm wrestling to see the biggest return?
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Post by Rob Vigeant Jr. on Jul 9, 2013 7:45:17 GMT -5
Do a reality show... Tv would bring sponsors and a lot of people who never competed would want to get on tv for their small slice of fame.
Everything is reality based shows and competitions now so the format and concept works.
Not sure how much production and the hidden stuff costs, but I'm sure you can finagle the money to work...
It could be like the cooking show "chopped"... Different people every show... They give a highlight of the person, their personality... Strength and skills.... At the end the winner gets 10k
No second place... One prize... People get off on seeing a large purse getting paid in an hr time frame...
You could do different weight classes weekly...
Or keep it open, but you can only compete and win once... Unless at the end of the season you do a champions event type thing...
If done right it could work and is our best shot to be put out there and be picked up by bigger sponsors....
Just throwing raw pulling on PPV... Will never work...
That'd be like sitting in a kitchen and watching a guy whip up a mean fois gras.... Snoozathon... But with the personality, the highlights, the drama, the woes of competition... The big cash prizes.... Suddenly there a ton of cooking shows... All successful
That's where I'd go at least
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Post by Rob Vigeant Jr. on Jul 9, 2013 7:50:40 GMT -5
I mean I'd like it to be a 50k 198 winner take all event...
But promoting this from within is where everyone seems to fall short
The big question is do we want to give a proper event for the here and now... Or spread the wealth in hope of growing and creating new opportunities that would ultimately bring bigger opportunity, but that means sacrifice... For the most part it is almost never the latter.
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Post by Brent Norris on Jul 9, 2013 11:29:20 GMT -5
I agree with Robby except all fois gras is mean and ladder is the correct spelling. Always inspect a ladder before each use.
There are plenty of low budget reality shows about boring bs compared to arm wrestling. It can be done and I'm sure there are some creative, hungry producers that would jump on it.
If we talk to RJ and get him to talk w the producers of swamp people it could lead to something.
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Post by Jonathon Hoffmann on Jul 9, 2013 11:35:49 GMT -5
Hard question... 50k isn't very much capitol at all.. Robert Drenk spends WAY more than that at his small events and 3 times that for large ones.. Obviously an interested promoter for a reality show wouldn't be very interested if you can only have 1 event (and that is if you stretch that 50k to the max).. they want a continuance and would NOT pony up the cash for you to do it... maybe season two you start getting a little love but until then it is all you.
So you see it is very hard and there are already people with alot of money trying to do the same thing.. you need to get creative and take a whole new angle... maybe some sort of seminar type event where you get a big name like brzenk to come... I dunno... tough call man.
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Post by Brent Norris on Jul 9, 2013 11:57:21 GMT -5
Furthermore,
Thank you sir may I have another..
If we want to see different results (growth of our sport) we must do things differently. I feel like arm wrestling is at an exciting juncture now (maybe I'm excited about my new technique I'm about to busy out on some junctures). Seems like more and more exciting tournaments are getting scheduled. Thanks to our current and past promotors we're where we are today and we should honor them and not look to compete or replace them. However, if any look at different ideas or promotional paths as a threat to them instead if possible growth then they should be in check. I have heard MANY times of infighting between promotors because one didn't have the others permission to hold a tournament on a certain date or location. This is counter productive/promotional of the sport. May the best event, venue, promotion win.. Then we all win.
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Post by Brent Norris on Jul 9, 2013 12:11:59 GMT -5
Hard question... 50k isn't very much capitol at all.. Robert Drenk spends WAY more than that at his small events and 3 times that for large ones.. Obviously an interested promoter for a reality show wouldn't be very interested if you can only have 1 event (and that is if you stretch that 50k to the max).. they want a continuance and would NOT pony up the cash for you to do it... maybe season two you start getting a little love but until then it is all you. So you see it is very hard and there are already people with alot of money trying to do the same thing.. you need to get creative and take a whole new angle... maybe some sort of seminar type event where you get a big name like brzenk to come... I dunno... tough call man. True $50k isn't much but it's enough I to get a hungry producer started on a show not an event. The show will go to events already scheduled, training camps around the country, and cover certain pullers bios at a minimum. When interested sponsors hear of the show that's where extra capital comes in. |
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Post by Rob Vigeant Jr. on Jul 9, 2013 12:19:26 GMT -5
Agreed 50k isn't much, but throwing another $$$ event is a black hole for a promoters finances. 50k shows plenty of skin in the game for other investors to join up and formulate how to promote and get return on the investment... Tv is the only way... It's plausible Brent... Don't mess with my spelling boy, I was a spelling bee champ...But you should check your ladders... 2 points for you OSHA boy. Fois gras is mean... Mean how they produce it... Poor duckies I have heard legends about your new technique... In the underground circuit of massage parlors and men's rooms with the hole in the wall... Word spreads fast brotha Thank you sir may I have another !!!  ... See you soon bud... |
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Post by Robert Drenk on Jul 9, 2013 13:27:14 GMT -5
Save your sponsors Money no offense.... $50k will just be a waste in the big scheme of things. There are a few of us that have hundreds of thousands invested and years of building to get to the point were at. I'm not trying to be a dick just trying to "save" the sport by not losing potential sponsors as this really kicks off. If you really want to help the sport send that sponsor to the group you think is taking the sport to the next level and take a small commission for finding the sponsor.
If everyone takes what small money comes through and burns it up with no real results "National TV" then we will lose the sponsors because the ROI is not there yet, especially with a new group or league.
I hope this helps....
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Post by TK on Jul 9, 2013 14:33:37 GMT -5
JEFF,
The goals i had for the sport being a regular item on a network sports channel, 50,000 would have gotten a good foot in the door. I mean it would just scratch the surface. I got AW on tv locally for a few thousand. We would be able to produce a BETTER show with that amount. Reality show...NO......pure action with interviews included would be much better!!
but to be honest 50g.....is only a small portion. Sponsors would have to be on board for a good ROI....
good luck,
and personally I'd like to see some feature shows based on "OUR" biggest stars....kind of greatest moments type thing....this is something Gary from ARMTV could catapult into the world beings he has the most footage of this sport.....FOOD FOR THOUGHT.
TK
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Post by Brent Norris on Jul 9, 2013 14:56:45 GMT -5
Arm wrestling is not OSHA approved. Damn, another hurtle. Oh well... If it ain't easy it ain't meant to be...
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Post by Brent Norris on Jul 9, 2013 14:58:01 GMT -5
Donate the dolla bills to the nut swinger fund. Robby will be the secretary |
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... See you soon bud... 
